Connecting Rod Failure in 4 Stroke Petrol Engines

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential causes of connecting rod failure in a 4-stroke petrol engine, specifically focusing on a case where the rod broke at the small end. Participants explore various manufacturing processes and possible mechanical failures, including fatigue, flaws, and operational issues.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the reasons for the connecting rod's failure, noting the specific manufacturing processes involved.
  • Another participant suggests that small end failure is unusual and questions whether the piston seized, indicating a possible consequential failure.
  • A participant proposes that the small end may have broken due to fatigue or a manufacturing flaw, raising questions about inspection methods like magnafluxing for cracks.
  • Concerns are expressed about potential operational issues, such as a blocked water passage, inadequate lubrication, or a lean fuel/air mixture, which could have contributed to the failure.
  • One participant speculates on the possibility of over-revving leading to "rod stretch," questioning the limits of the connecting rod's material properties.
  • A participant confirms that all produced cam shafts undergo magnaflux inspection, but acknowledges that cracks may not have been detected post-machining.
  • There is a commitment to investigate further by checking for other potential issues and providing photographs of the failed surface for analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the causes of the failure, with some suggesting manufacturing flaws or fatigue, while others consider operational factors. No consensus is reached on the definitive cause of the failure.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the absence of visible scoring or signs of seizure, which may limit the conclusions that can be drawn about lubrication issues. The discussion also highlights the complexity of diagnosing mechanical failures, given the interplay of manufacturing and operational factors.

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hi..
I am new to this site.
I want to know about reasons of failure of connecting rod of 4 stroke petrol engine. In this case the rod has broken into two parts from the small end of the rod. The manufacturing root of the component is hot forging - hardening - induction softening of the small end part - bend/twist correction - machine. What can be the possible causes of the failure?
 
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Did the piston seize? Small end failure is very unusual unless it's consequential.
 
brewnog said:
Did the piston seize? Small end failure is very unusual unless it's consequential.

On the part which remained undamaged in the block there is no mark of rubbing or seizure as such. Your point that it is quite unusual is correct as we have only received 6 cases out of around 5 lack engines we have produced, The big end is well in tact and appears to have no signs of improper lubrication,
 
i would say that the small end broke due to fatigue or a flaw. was the rod magnafluxed for cracks? was it inspected for cracks? I think the small end snapped because the piston did not move and the crankshaft did and therefore the con rod broke...now why this happened is known...maybe there was a blocked water passage around this cylinder..maybe the crankshaft was not oiling the bottom of the piston properly, maybe that cylinder had a lean fuel/air mixture. the rod , if in tact , without cracks should never have failed.
 
I agree that it was most likely a manufacturing flaw or fatigue, but is it possible that the thing was over-revved so badly that the "rod stretch" became infinite?
 
Ranger Mike said:
i would say that the small end broke due to fatigue or a flaw. was the rod magnafluxed for cracks? was it inspected for cracks? I think the small end snapped because the piston did not move and the crankshaft did and therefore the con rod broke...now why this happened is known...maybe there was a blocked water passage around this cylinder..maybe the crankshaft was not oiling the bottom of the piston properly, maybe that cylinder had a lean fuel/air mixture. the rod , if in tact , without cracks should never have failed.

Thanks for the response..
Ok.. All the produced cam shaft go through magnaflux inspection as it is forging root. The possibility remains that the crack was not exposed after machining. There is no visible scoring mark or sign of seizure between the gudgen pin and the small end so for now we can rule out lack of lubrication. I will check the other two points and come back to you...
I will also try to provide photographs of failed surface so that something can be concluded on hardness, crack etc.
 

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