Conservation of angular momentum of a falling particle

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A stone dropped from a stationary helicopter at 500m above the equator raises questions about its landing position due to angular momentum conservation. The initial angular momentum is calculated using the helicopter's height and Earth's radius, while the stone's motion is described by its changing height and horizontal velocity. The calculations yield a landing distance of 12cm from the drop point, which contradicts the expected 24cm. Participants in the discussion suggest that the setup of the equations may be flawed, but they also express confidence in the integration process. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly establishing the equations in physics problems involving angular momentum.
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Homework Statement



A stone is dropped from a stationary helicopter 500m above the ground, at the equator. How far from the point vertically below the helicopter does it land?

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The Attempt at a Solution



Let the height above the ground it is dropped be h, the radius of the Earth R, the mass of the stone m (which will cancel) and the angular velocity of the Earth w. Then the angular momentum as it's dropped is mw(R+h)^2.

When the particle is at a height y above the Earth's surface, the stone has angular momentum m(R+y)(v_x+v_0) where v_0=(R+h)w is the velocity (in x direction) when it dropped, due to the helicopter being stationary, w.r.t. the Earth.

Now, y=h-0.5g*t^2, and Conservation of AM implies

mw(R+h)^2=m(R+h-0.5g*t^2)(v_x+(R+h)w).

I rearranged for v_x and integrated between t=0 and t'=Sqrt(2h/g), the time for the stone to hit the ground.

I go the answer x=12cm, but it should be x=24cm. Am i performing the integration incorrectly or have I set up the equations wrong?

Thanks, Rupe
 
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I get the same answer of 12cm by doing the integral, so it seems like the problem is in your setup. Though I don't immediately see what you might have done incorrectly.
 
Thanks for your help diazona. That improves my confidence in the integration. I wonder if anyone can see my mistake in setting up the equation?

Thanks.
 
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