Conservation of Energy- Circular Motion Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a solid rubber ball attached to a thread, swung in a vertical circle. The scenario includes calculating the total energy of the ball and its speed at the lowest point of the circle, with gravitational potential energy referenced from the floor.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy equations to determine total energy and speed at different points in the motion. There is consideration of how to account for the height of the ball at various points in the circle.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on calculating kinetic and potential energy, while others are exploring the relationship between energy at the top and bottom of the circle. There is an ongoing clarification of how to define height in relation to the reference point of the floor.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement, including the specific mass of the ball, the length of the thread, and the defined reference point for gravitational potential energy.

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Homework Statement


A .10 kg solid rubber ball is attached to the end of a .80 m length of light thread. The ball is swung in a vertical circle. Point P, the lowest point of the circle, is .20 m above the floor. The speed of the ball at the top of the circle is 6.0 m/s, and the total energy of the ball is kept constant.

a) Determine the total energy of the ball, using the floor as the zero point for gravitational potential energy.

b) Determine the speed of the ball at point P, the lowest point of the circle.



Homework Equations



1/2mv^2 = KE
mgh = PE
E1=E2


3. The attempt for a solution

I'm thinking for part A, that I'd use the mgh=PE equation. But I also notice that the ball is moving! Would it be KE + PE = TE? I really figured that, but I could be wrong.

For part B, I just know that energy at the top has to equal it at the bottom. I don't know where to go from that.
 
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a) The speed of the ball at the top is given. As you have already figured out at the top TE = PE + KE. You have v, find KE. Can, you find h, for PE = mgh, at the top? Remember, that the floor has to be taken as the zero.

b) From part a), you have the TE. Calculate PE at the bottom, and then find KE = TE - PE.
 
Oh, now I understand... so the height would be the length times two since the length is considered the radius of the circle, right? Height would be the length times two for the full round top to bottom. Plus the height from the ground to the lowest point of the circle, P, because the floor is the reference point.

For part B, just to be sure, I'll have to solve for v in the KE equation, correct?
 
thaixicedxtea said:
Oh, now I understand... so the height would be the length times two since the length is considered the radius of the circle, right? Height would be the length times two for the full round top to bottom. Plus the height from the ground to the lowest point of the circle, P, because the floor is the reference point.

For part B, just to be sure, I'll have to solve for v in the KE equation, correct?


yes...you are right..and right again for part B. :)
 

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