Conservation of Energy in different frame

In summary, the boy on the train throws a ball with mass m at a speed of v along the motion of the train, resulting in a kinetic energy gain of 1/2 mv^2. This same amount of kinetic energy gain is observed by the man standing by the railroad track. The work done by the boy throwing the ball is also 1/2 mv^2, while the work done by the train is muv.
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A train moves in a straight at a constant speed u. A boy on the train throw a ball of mass m straight ahead, along the motion of the train, with a speed v with respect to himdelf.
a)What is the KE gain of the ball measured by the boy?
b)What is the KE gain of the ball measured by a man standing by the railroad track?
c)How much work is done by the boy throwing the ball?
d)How much work is done by the train?



a) 1/2 mv^2

b) 1/2m(v+u)^2 - 1/2 mu^2 = 1/2mv^2 +muv

c) measured by the boy: 1/2 mv^2 , measured by the man: 1/2 mv^2

d) measured by the boy: 0 , measured by the man: muv

My fd suggest that there is no workdone by the boy measured by the man, all work is done by the train.

Is there anything wrong in part c and d?
Plz tell me why if I am wrong
 
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.No, your answers for part c and d are correct. The boy does the same amount of work measured by himself and measured by the man standing by the railroad track, which is 1/2 mv^2. The work done by the train is the difference between the kinetic energy gain of the ball measured by the man on the railroad track and the kinetic energy gain of the ball measured by the boy, which is muv.
 
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No, there is nothing wrong with your answers for parts c and d. Work is defined as the force applied to an object multiplied by the distance it moves in the direction of the force. In this scenario, the boy is applying a force to the ball, causing it to move in the direction of the train's motion. Therefore, the boy is doing work on the ball. However, the train is not applying any force to the ball, so it is not doing any work on the ball. The train is simply providing the initial velocity for the ball to maintain its motion.
 

1. What is the concept of conservation of energy in different frames?

The concept of conservation of energy in different frames refers to the principle that the total amount of energy in a closed system remains constant, regardless of any changes in the frame of reference. This means that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or converted from one form to another.

2. How does the conservation of energy apply to different frames of reference?

The conservation of energy applies to different frames of reference because energy is a fundamental physical quantity that is independent of the observer's perspective. This means that the total energy in a system will remain the same regardless of the frame of reference used to measure it.

3. What are some examples of conservation of energy in different frames?

Some examples of conservation of energy in different frames include a ball rolling down a hill, a pendulum swinging back and forth, and a car moving at a constant speed. In each of these cases, the total energy of the system (including potential and kinetic energy) remains constant regardless of the observer's frame of reference.

4. How does the law of conservation of energy relate to the first law of thermodynamics?

The law of conservation of energy is closely related to the first law of thermodynamics, which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or converted between different forms. The conservation of energy is a fundamental principle that is essential to the first law of thermodynamics.

5. What are some real-world applications of the conservation of energy in different frames?

The conservation of energy in different frames has many real-world applications, including in the fields of physics, engineering, and environmental science. For example, it is used to analyze the motion of objects, design efficient energy systems, and understand the impact of human activities on the environment.

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