Conservation of energy of a block of ice

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the conservation of energy, specifically focusing on a block of ice sliding on a floor and the energy conversion from kinetic energy to internal energy as it melts. The problem presents a scenario where the initial kinetic energy of the ice block is to be used to determine how much ice melts, given a specific energy requirement for melting ice.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between kinetic energy and internal energy, questioning how to integrate the given energy requirement for melting ice into their calculations. There is uncertainty about the final velocity of the ice block and its implications on the kinetic energy conversion.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested that the initial kinetic energy is entirely converted to internal energy, leading to the assumption that the final kinetic energy is zero. Others are exploring how to calculate the mass of ice that melts based on the energy values provided, with one participant attempting to derive a formula from the energy relationships discussed.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of information regarding the final velocity of the ice block, which is crucial for determining the change in kinetic energy. The significance of the energy value for melting ice being highlighted in the textbook is also noted, but its role in the calculations remains unclear to some participants.

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Well... It is first first time on the Physics Forums, and I'm stuck on this problem:

1. A 2.5 kg block of ice at a temperature of 0.0 °C and an initial speed of 5.7 m/s slides across a level floor. if 3.3 × 10^5 J are required to melt 1.0 kg of ice, how much ice melts, assuming that the initial kinetic energy of the ice block is entirely converted to the ice's internal energy?



2. ∆PE + ∆KE +∆U = 0
(the change in potential energy + the change in kinetic energy + the change in internal energy = 0)
PE = mgh
KE = ½mv²




3. Well... I really have no idea how to solve this one...

But it sounds to me that KE = ½(2.5 kg)(5.7 m/s)² somewhere in there... But I really don't know what I am supposed to solve for (I think it is the mass of how much ice melts). I don't know how to integrate 3.3 × 10^5 J into an equation. If I could get a equation to start off from, I could do the rest. Thanks.
 
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Are you sure the problem doesn't give you a *final* velocity? The basic concept is that while the block is sliding across the floor, friction does negative work on it, reducing its kinetic energy. The kinetic energy lost heats up the block (i.e. it is converted into internal energy). If you knew the final speed, you'd know the change in kinetic energy. From that, you could calculate how much ice melts.
 
No final velocity is given... Is there a way I can find it from that information?

EDIT: 3.3 × 10^5 J is circled in my textbook for some reason...
 
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Yeah, maybe we are meant to interpret "the initial kinetic energy is ENTIRELY converted..." as meaning all of it. In that case, the final kinetic energy would be zero.
 
All right, I'll attempt to work off of that. :)

Here we go:

PEi + KEi +Ui = PEf + KEf + Uf

PEi & PEf = 0

KEf = 0

KEi +Ui = Uf

KEi = Uf - Ui <--- (∆U)

½mv² = ∆U

½(2.5 kg)(5.7 m/s)² = ∆U

42 J = ∆U

3.3 × 10^5 J/1.0 kg = 42 J/m

m(3.3 × 10^5 J) = (42 J)(1.0 kg)

m = 42 J(kg)/3.3 × 10^5 J

m = 1.3 × 10^-4 kg


1.3 × 10^-4 kg of ice melts...

That's not much, isn't it? I hope this is correct...
 
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Does it seem that I got the right answer?
 

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