Conservation of Energy,pendulum question

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The problem involves a pendulum consisting of a mass on a 50 cm long string, initially held at a 30° angle with the vertical. The question seeks to determine the speed of the mass at the lowest point after being released, with a hint suggesting the use of trigonometry to find the initial height of the mass.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants suggest drawing a diagram to visualize the problem and using trigonometry to find the height difference between the initial and final positions of the pendulum. There is discussion about applying energy conservation principles and the relationship between potential and kinetic energy.

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Some participants have provided hints and guidance on how to approach the problem, including the importance of considering the vertical component of the string and the height difference. One participant has attempted a solution and shared their calculations, seeking confirmation of their answer.

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There is mention of significant digits in the calculations, indicating a focus on precision in the solution. The discussion reflects an ongoing exploration of the problem without a definitive conclusion reached yet.

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Homework Statement



A pendulum consists of a mass on a 50 cm long string. It is being held stationary at a 30°angle with the vertical. After release, how fast will it be going at the bottom? (Hint: Use trigonometry to find how high the ball is initally)


Homework Equations



Ek = 1/2mv^2 for sure to find the velocity
Eg = mgh


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm basically brain-dead on this question, I don't know where to start.
 
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Draw a diagram first, that always helps.

Hint: Trigonometry, you're going to have to consider cos of the angle in this situation. It's like a force, you need to consider the vertical component of the string. In forces that would be the vertical force, but here it's the length.
 
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Yes, draw a diagram with both the initial position and the final postion(bottom-most).
Then find the height difference between the two positions. It will be a function of the angle.
And then apply energy conservation.
 
So basically I've had a go on the question with the help of the previous posts:
[PLAIN]http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/6052/physicsi.png

So to find the left side of the triangle (lets say n):

50 x cos30 = n
n = 43.3

The string is 50cm
50 - 43.3 = 6.70 cm
x = 6.70cm
=0.0670m

Since Ep @ top = Ek @ bottom
m x 9.80 x 0.0670 = 1/2mv^2, m's cancel out I think?

0.6566 = 1/2v^2
sqrt 1.3132 = sqrt v^2
1.15 m/s = v

I'm not sure about the significant digits, but this is how I tried to solve the question, can anyone confirm the answer?
 
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Assuming your arithmetic is all correct that looks to be correct, and yes for this relationship your mass is negligible.

Joe
 

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