Conservation of Momentum Conceptual Questions

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The discussion centers on the conservation of momentum in various collision scenarios. In the first question, participants debate whether both objects can be at rest after a collision, concluding that it is not possible as momentum must be conserved. The second question examines a snowball colliding with a tree, with users noting that while momentum appears not to be conserved, the system's external forces complicate the analysis. The final question involves an elastic collision where one object continues moving at a reduced speed, leading to discussions on how to calculate the mass of the second object using momentum equations. Overall, the thread highlights common misconceptions and challenges in applying the conservation of momentum principles.
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Homework Statement


1. A moving object collides with a stationary object.
(a) Is it possible for both objects to be at rest after the collision? If "yes," give an example. If "no," explain why not.
(b) Is it possible for only one object to be at rest after the collision? If "yes," give an example. If "no," explain why not.


Homework Equations



p tot = ptot'
p = mv

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) ptot = m1v1 + m2v2
m2v2 is 0,
ptot' = m1v1' + m2v2'
ptot = ptot'
m1v1 = m1v1' + m2v2'
Now I'm stuck, I think the answer is no, i think both of them will move, but how do I show this?

(b) same problem, I'm stuck!

Homework Statement



2. A wet snowball of mass m, traveling at speed v, strikes a tree. It sticks to the tree and stops. Does this example violate the law of conservation of momentum? Explain.


Homework Equations


p= mv



The Attempt at a Solution


this is what I thought m1 is snowball m2 is tree
m1v1 + m2v2 = (m1+m2)'v12'
LS = m1v1
RS = (m1+m2)' v12'
LS does not equal right side, therefore LOC of M does not hold, but I feel that I have done a fallacious step somewhere.

Homework Statement



5. An object of mass m has an elastic collision with another object initially at rest, and continues to move in the original direction but with one-third its original speed. What is the mass of the other object in terms of m?

Homework Equations



p = mv
Ek = 1/2mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Given
m1 =?
m2= ?
v1 = ?
v2 = 0
v1' = 1/3(v1)
v2' = ?

m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v1' + m2v2'
m1v1 = m1v1" + m2v2'
m1v1 = m1(1/3v1) + m2v2'
Now I am stuck, How do I solve for m2? Do I use Ek = 1/2mv^2 eqns and stuff.
 
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(a) ptot = m1v1 + m2v2
m2v2 is 0, ptot' = m1v1' + m2v2'
Maybe it is just too late at night, but all these symbols don't seem to be very clarifying.
Why not just say initial p = m1*v1 ≠ 0. So, if momentum is conserved in the collision, then momentum is not zero afterwards either.

(b) Time to go play pool or curling. If you must play with equations, don't bother writing terms that are known to be zero.
 
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