Conservation of momentum problem

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In a one-dimensional collision involving two objects with masses m and 3m, where the object with mass m is moving at three times the velocity of the object with mass 3m, the conservation of momentum equation is applied. The initial momentum is calculated as m(3v) + 3m(v) = 0, leading to the conclusion that the final velocities after the collision must also maintain a total momentum of zero. The discussion indicates that while the velocities after the collision do not need to be zero, they must satisfy the conditions of momentum conservation, likely implying an elastic collision where kinetic energy is conserved. Participants suggest substituting the variables for clarity and simplifying the equation to solve for the final velocities. The problem emphasizes the importance of understanding momentum conservation in collision scenarios.
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Homework Statement



An object with mass m and an object with mass 3m collide in one dimension. The object with mass m is moving at 3 times the velocity of the object with mass 3m. What can you say about their velocities after the collision?

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m1vi1 + m2vi2 = m1vf1 + m2vf2



The Attempt at a Solution


Well first I tried to use the equation for conservation of momentum and solve for the final velocities but it got quite messy and I wasn't getting anywhere. But if they collide head on wouldn't the velocities after the collision have to be 0 since the total momentum before would be 0? The only thing is it doesn't say theyre colliding head on.
 
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It says that they collide in one dimension, which is a way of saying that they collide head-on. The velocities do not have to be zero after the collision, but the momentum has to remain zero. This is probably supposed to be an elastic collision, so kinetic energy must remain unchanged (i.e., velocity can not be zero).

To start, try changing m1 and m2 to m and 3m, and then vi1 and vi2 to 3v and v. After you do that, you can simplify the equation considerably.
 
I did try that but I must have messed up somewhere... ill try it again
 
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