Conservation of Momentum- with ramp

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A 0.2 kg block slides down a 0.5-meter frictionless ramp and collides with a stationary 0.8 kg block, with a coefficient of friction of 0.1 on the surface. The initial speed of the first block is calculated to be approximately 2.21 m/s after descending the ramp. The calculations for the final speed of the second block after the collision suggest it to be 0.5375 m/s, but there are concerns regarding the assumptions made about the collision type and the initial conditions. The discussion highlights the need for clarification on whether the collision is elastic or inelastic, as this affects the outcome. Overall, the solution requires further validation due to potential errors in the assumptions and calculations.
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Homework Statement



A .2kg block from rest slides down a frictionless ramp that is .5 meters long. The block lands on a flat surface and moves towards another block that is 1.4 meters away. The other block is not moving and it has a mass of .8kg. The Miu (sp?) of the flat surface is .1. Once the two blocks collide, what is the speed of the second block?

Here is a picture of the scenario:

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/happygolucky2442/abeapic.jpg

v^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a \Delta x

Homework Equations



P=MV

MA1VA1+ MB1VB1=MA2VA2+ MB2VB2

f_k = \mu_k N

\vec{F}_{net} = \Sigma \vec{F} = m \vec{a}


The Attempt at a Solution



v^2=2ad
v^2=9.8(.5)
v^2=4.9
v=2.21m/s

f_k = \mu_k N
Ff= -.1(1.96)
Ff= -.196

A=f/m

a=-.1

v^2=2ad
=4.9 - .28
=4.62
=2.15

MA1VA1+ MB1VB1=MA2VA2+ MB2VB2

.2(2.15) +.8(0) = .2(0) + .8VB2

.43=.8VB2

VB2=.5375 m/s

Please check and see if my answer is correct. Thanks.
 
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JerG90 said:

Homework Statement



A .2kg block from rest slides down a frictionless ramp that is .5 meters long. The block lands on a flat surface and moves towards another block that is 1.4 meters away. The other block is not moving and it has a mass of .8kg. The Miu (sp?) of the flat surface is .1. Once the two blocks collide, what is the speed of the second block?

Here is a picture of the scenario:

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/happygolucky2442/abeapic.jpg

v^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a \Delta x

Homework Equations



P=MV

MA1VA1+ MB1VB1=MA2VA2+ MB2VB2

f_k = \mu_k N

\vec{F}_{net} = \Sigma \vec{F} = m \vec{a}


The Attempt at a Solution



v^2=2ad
v^2=9.8(.5)
v^2=4.9
v=2.21m/s

f_k = \mu_k N
Ff= -.1(1.96)
Ff= -.196

A=f/m

a=-.1 you've made an error here, instead of plugging in the mass to detrmine a, you plugged in the weight by mistake. This will affect your result for detrmining v below, which otherwise would be correct.[/color]
v^2=2ad
=4.9 - .28
=4.62
=2.15

MA1VA1+ MB1VB1=MA2VA2+ MB2VB2

.2(2.15) +.8(0) = .2(0) + .8VB2, good formula, butwhy did you assume VA2 is 0? The problem is insufficiently worded to get a result without knowing whether the collision is elastic or inelastic, or without other given data. MA might actually bounce back in the opposite direction with a smaller speed, and MB move forward with not much speed, but more data is needed about the speed of MA before calculating the speed of MB[/color]

.43=.8VB2

VB2=.5375 m/s

Please check and see if my answer is correct. Thanks.
See my comments in red above.
 
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