Conservation of relativistic momentum for identical particles

In summary, the conversation discusses how to find the direction and speed of particle #3, as well as the ratio of M/m, after a particle of mass M decays into three identical particles of mass m with known velocities. The method used involves computing the average direction and velocity of particles 1 and 2 and reversing the direction vector. The speaker then mentions using the equation gamma(mu)=p to find the velocity of particle #3, and is currently trying to use u_y'= u_y/(gamma(1-(u_xv/c^2))) to find the relative y velocity between particle #3 and #2. The conversation also briefly mentions solving for the magnitude of particle #3's velocity and discussing the direction it should be pointing
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If a particle of mass M is at rest in a lab when it decays into 3 identical particles of mass m with:
particle 1: having a velocity of 4c/5 in the -i direction vector
particle 2: having a velocity of 3c/5 in the -j direction vector
particle 3: having an unknown velocity in a direction defined by an unknown Θ

how would a find the direction and speed of particle #3 with respect to the lab, with respect to particle #2. And also the ration of M/m

I've tried computing the average direction and velocity of particles 1 and 2 then reversing the direction vector but i think I'm going about it the wrong way.

thanks in advance guys.
 
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How would you do this if it were not relativistic?
 
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i was able to solve v for #3 to be .837c at 29.4 degrees
 
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How did you do that?
 
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used equation gamma(mu)=p . For particle #3 got a velocit of m<-4/3c,-3/4c>. arctan (3/4 / 4/3 )=29.36
now I am trying to use u_y'= u_y/(gamma(1-(u_xv/c^2))) to find the relative y velocity between them but ended up with 1.017c
 
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For particle #3 got a velocit of m<-4/3c,-3/4c>
... what is the magnitude of this velocity?
What direction should the velocity be pointing in for momentum to be conserved?
(You should also specify the reference frame.)

Sounds like you are just plugging numbers into equations.
What was your reasoning?
 

Related to Conservation of relativistic momentum for identical particles

1. What is the conservation of relativistic momentum for identical particles?

The conservation of relativistic momentum for identical particles is a fundamental principle in physics that states that the total momentum of a closed system of identical particles remains constant, regardless of any interactions or transformations within the system. This means that the sum of the individual momenta of all the identical particles in the system will always remain the same.

2. Why is the conservation of relativistic momentum important?

The conservation of relativistic momentum is important because it is a fundamental law of nature that has been observed and verified through countless experiments. It plays a crucial role in many important theories, such as special relativity and quantum mechanics, and is essential for understanding the behavior of physical systems.

3. How is the conservation of relativistic momentum different from classical momentum conservation?

The conservation of relativistic momentum is different from classical momentum conservation in that it takes into account the effects of special relativity, such as time dilation and length contraction. In classical mechanics, momentum is defined as mass times velocity, while in relativity, it is defined as the product of mass, velocity, and the Lorentz factor.

4. What are some real-world examples of the conservation of relativistic momentum for identical particles?

One example of the conservation of relativistic momentum for identical particles is seen in particle accelerators, where high-speed particles collide and produce new particles. In this process, the total momentum of the system remains constant, even though individual particles may change direction or velocity. Another example is in nuclear reactions, where the total momentum of the particles involved must remain constant.

5. Are there any exceptions to the conservation of relativistic momentum for identical particles?

There are some cases where the conservation of relativistic momentum may appear to be violated, such as in certain quantum mechanical phenomena. However, these apparent violations can be explained by the conservation of energy, as energy and momentum are related through the famous equation E=mc^2. Overall, the conservation of relativistic momentum for identical particles is a fundamental law that holds true in the vast majority of physical systems.

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