Conserved Energy in a moving frame of reference

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Tinhorn said:
mg in the -y direction
that is why the sin is there
The weight acts downward, so is already totally in the y direction. No need for any sinθ.

mg sin theta cos theta in the y
mg cos ^2 theta in the x
I think you have these reversed.
 
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so mg for weight

and mg sin theta cos theta in the x
mg cos ^2 theta in the y

how does that make fr = mgsinθcosθ x+ mgsin^2y
 
Can i say mgsinθ is the force moving the box down the slope

since the x and y components of the force A is
[itex]A_{x}[/itex]= A*cosθ
[itex]A_{y}[/itex]= A*sinθ

I can say mg sin θ = mg sinθcosθ + [itex]mgsin^{2}[/itex]

and since weight or gravity is also working on the box
which is -mg on the y component.

dot product would be

[itex]mgsinθcosθ _{x}[/itex]- [itex]mgsin^{2} _{y}[/itex]
which is the resultant (i copied the sign wrong last time)
 
Tinhorn said:
Can i say mgsinθ is the force moving the box down the slope

since the x and y components of the force A is
[itex]A_{x}[/itex]= A*cosθ
[itex]A_{y}[/itex]= A*sinθ

I can say mg sin θ = mg sinθcosθ + [itex]mgsin^{2}[/itex]

and since weight or gravity is also working on the box
which is -mg on the y component.

dot product would be

[itex]mgsinθcosθ _{x}[/itex]- [itex]mgsin^{2} _{y}[/itex]
which is the resultant (i copied the sign wrong last time)
That's the correct resultant, but I don't follow your reasoning. Here's how you get it by adding the force components you found earlier:

Add the x components (there's only one): mgcosθsinθ
Add the y components: mgcos2θ - mg = -mgsin2θ
 
I get it.
but i had always thought the x and y components of the force A is
Ax= A*cosθ
Ay= A*sinθ

why does normal force have sin in its component
and cos in its component
 
Tinhorn said:
I get it.
but i had always thought the x and y components of the force A is
Ax= A*cosθ
Ay= A*sinθ
Right, when θ is given with respect to the horizontal. (It's reversed when θ is with respect to the vertical.)

why does normal force have sin in its component
and cos in its component
Using your notation, A is the normal force, thus A = mgcosθ. When you find its components, you'll get the additional sine and cosine factors.
 
One last question

if ΔKE = [itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex][itex]mv^{2}_{x}[/itex] + [itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex][itex]mv^{2}_{y}[/itex]

why is ΔKE also -[itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex][itex]mv^{2}_{x}[/itex] + [itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex][itex]mv^{2}_{y}[/itex]

should'nt it be -ΔKE
 
Tinhorn said:
One last question

if ΔKE = [itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex][itex]mv^{2}_{x}[/itex] + [itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex][itex]mv^{2}_{y}[/itex]
That's an expression for KE, not ΔKE, right?
why is ΔKE also -[itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex][itex]mv^{2}_{x}[/itex] + [itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex][itex]mv^{2}_{y}[/itex]

should'nt it be -ΔKE
I don't know what you are asking.