Convert equation of a line on a plane to R3 equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around converting the equation of a line defined on a plane in R3 to its corresponding equation in three-dimensional space. Participants explore the necessary conditions and information required for this conversion, including the role of points and parameters in defining curves like parabolas.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in deriving the R3 equation of a line given its equation on a plane and a point in R3.
  • Another participant questions whether the origin/axis of the line is known in R3 coordinates, suggesting that if it is, the R3 coordinates of a point may not be necessary.
  • A later reply mentions having three points in R3 that lie on the function, which is a parabola, and asks how to derive the parametric equations for the parabola from these points.
  • One participant states that generally, four points are needed to uniquely determine a parabola, explaining that a general quadratic curve has six parameters, but the condition of being a parabola reduces the number of free parameters to four.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the number of points required to define a parabola, with differing views on whether three or four points are necessary. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conversion process and the specific requirements for defining the line in R3.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations regarding the assumptions about the origin/axis of the line and the dependency on the number of points required for defining a parabola. There is also an unresolved aspect concerning the exact method for deriving the equations from the given points.

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Hi,

I have the equation of a plane P in R3.

I have an equation f(x) of a line that exists on that plane, using an arbitrary origin/axis on the plane.

I know the corresponding R3 coordinates of a point of f(x).

Intuition tells me that I have all the info I need to calculate the equation to the line in R3, but I don't know exactly how.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks
 
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Is the origin/axis for f(x) known in terms of R3 coordinates? If so then you don't need the R3 coordinates of a point of f(x).

Alternatively if the origin/axis is not specified, then you need two points on the line. The plane equation is not needed.
 
mathman said:
Is the origin/axis for f(x) known in terms of R3 coordinates? If so then you don't need the R3 coordinates of a point of f(x).

Alternatively if the origin/axis is not specified, then you need two points on the line. The plane equation is not needed.

I have 3 points (in R3 coordinates) that the are on the function. It is aparabola, so I assume you need 3 points to construct.

so taking into consideration what you said, i guess my question is now:

how do you equation to a parabola in the form:

x(t)
y(t)
z(t)

from 3 points in R3?

Thanks
 
In general you would need four points to determine a parabola. The general quadratic curve has six parameters, but these are unique only up to a constant multiplier, leaving five free parameters. Making it a parabola imposes one condition, reducing the number of free parameters to four.
 
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