Could Surface Integration of z^2=2xy Be Simplified?

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The discussion revolves around finding the surface area of the surface defined by the equation z2=2xy, specifically the portion lying above the xy-plane and bounded by x=2 and y=1. The original poster references a problem from Apostol and seeks clarification on their setup and potential parameterizations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster questions their parameterization and whether a different approach could simplify the integration process. Some participants suggest that the surface might be represented as an elliptic paraboloid, while others provide insights on rewriting terms under the radical for simplification.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different parameterizations and simplifications. There is a recognition of the original poster's setup, and some guidance has been offered regarding rewriting expressions, though no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

The problem is constrained by the specific bounds of x and y, and the participants are navigating the implications of these constraints on their approaches to the surface area calculation.

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Apostol page 429, problem 4

Is there a better way to set up this problem or have I made a mistake along the way?
(ie easier to integrate by different parameterization)

Homework Statement


Find the surface area of the surface z^2=2xy lying above the xy plane and bounded by x=2 and y=1.

Homework Equations


<br /> S=r(T)<br /> =\bigg(<br /> X(x,y),Y(x,y),Z(x,y)<br /> \bigg)<br /> =\bigg(<br /> x,y,\sqrt{2xy}<br /> \bigg)<br />
<br /> \frac{\partial r}{\partial x}=(1,0,\frac{\sqrt{2y}}{2\sqrt{x}})<br />
<br /> \frac{\partial r}{\partial y}=(0,1,\frac{\sqrt{2x}}{2\sqrt{y}})<br />
<br /> \frac{\partial r}{\partial x}\times\frac{\partial r}{\partial y}<br /> =\bigg(<br /> -\frac{\sqrt{2y}}{2\sqrt{x}},-\frac{\sqrt{2x}}{2\sqrt{y}},1<br /> \bigg)<br />
<br /> \left|\left|\frac{\partial r}{\partial x}\times\frac{\partial r}{\partial t}\right|\right|<br /> =\sqrt{1+\frac{2y}{4x}+\frac{2x}{4y}}<br />
<br /> a(S)=\int_0^1 \int_0^2 \sqrt{1+\frac{2y}{4x}+\frac{2x}{4y}}\,dx\,dy<br />
 
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Did I perhaps set something up wrong? Could this be parameterized somehow as an Elliptic Paraboloid?
 
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You are on the right track. It's actually easy to continue. Add the terms under the radical and rewrite is as

\frac 1 {\sqrt 2}\sqrt{\frac {(x+y)^2}{xy}}

and take the root in the numerator.
 
Yes, thank you. I was actually inquiring if anyone could find a better way to represent the surface area.
 

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