CP Operators and Mesons: Investigating Boundaries

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The discussion revolves around the decay process A -> BC, where A, B, and C are particles characterized by their intrinsic spin and angular momentum. Participants explore the implications of charge conjugation and parity operators on this decay, examining whether such a decay is permissible under the constraints of quantum mechanics. The scope includes theoretical considerations and exploratory reasoning about particle properties and decay mechanisms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a decay scenario with specific quantum numbers for particles A, B, and C, questioning the validity of the decay based on angular momentum and charge conjugation calculations.
  • Another participant challenges the calculations regarding CP symmetry, asking for clarification on how CP(A) = -1 is derived.
  • A different participant suggests that heavy quark mesons could undergo similar decay processes, providing an example of a specific decay involving a D meson.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the definition of angular momentum L for particle A, suggesting that L should be defined relative to the final products B and C rather than for A alone.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of intrinsic quantum numbers (J^{PC}) for determining the feasibility of the decay and discusses the implications of these numbers using the Higgs boson decay as an example.
  • One participant asserts that if B and C are distinct particles, charge conjugation may not be relevant for the decay process, and notes that a spin-zero particle can decay into two spin-one particles.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of angular momentum and charge conjugation in the context of the decay process. There is no consensus on the validity of the proposed decay or the calculations presented, indicating that multiple competing views remain.

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Participants highlight the need for clarity regarding the intrinsic quantum numbers of the particles involved and the definitions of angular momentum in the context of particle decays. Some calculations and assumptions remain unresolved, particularly regarding the application of CP symmetry and the conditions under which the decay is permissible.

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Hi,
I am currently going over this and got me thinking about a scanario where you have A -> BC
Where A is S = 0, L=0, B is S = 1 L=0, C is S=1 L =0
(I'll use S = intrinsic spin, L = angular momentum, J = Total Angular momentum, |L-S|=< J =< L+S)

Maybe such a decay doesn't exist, but I'm just trying to test the "boundaries" of what I know about this topic.

For this reaction to happen the total angular moment must be J=0 (ie 2-2 = 0 as J = 0 on LHS so L=2 on RHS for total system)
\hat{P}|B&gt; = (-1)(+1)(-1)^{L}
L = 0
\hat{P}|B&gt; = -1
and like wise:
\hat{P}|C&gt; = -1

For charge conjugation

\hat{C}|B&gt; = (-1)^{L+S}
\hat{C}|B&gt; = (-1)^{2} = +1
\hat{C}|C&gt; = (-1)^{2} = +1

Now put them together:
\hat{P}|BC&gt; = (-1)(-1)(-1)^{L}=(-1)^{2}= +1
\hat{C}|BC&gt; = (-1)(-1)(-1)^{L+S} = (-1)^{4} = +1

Hence CP:
\hat{C}\hat{P}|BC&gt; = (+1)(+1) = +1

BUT
If we do the LHS using L = 0, S = 0 we get CP(A) = -1

I could be doing these calculations wrong, though this method has worked for easier examples (maybe by chance..). Or maybe it's not suppose to work ...?

[Ps this isn't homework, I'm just reading a book on it!]

Thanks for any help
 
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If we do the LHS using L = 0, S = 0 we get CP(A) = -1
How?
(-1)0=1

##H \to \gamma \gamma## (yes I know those are all not mesons...)?
 
heavy quark mesons could do this kind of decay...
\bar{D}^{0} \rightarrow K^{+} \pi^{-}
\bar{c}u \rightarrow u \bar{s} + \bar{u} d
 
In terms of the LHS I did,
\hat{P}|a&gt; = (+1)(-1)(-1)^{L} = (-1)(-1)^{0} = -1
\hat{C}|a&gt; = (-1)^{L+S} = (-1)^{0} = +1

\hat{C}\hat{P}|a&gt; = (-1)(+1) = -1
 
I think there is a little bit of confusion here. For example, if A, B and C are particles how can they have angular momentum L? Relative to what? You can definitely have a relative angular momentum L between the final products B and C, but having L just for A doesn't make sense to me.

Particles are usually characterized by their J^{PC} quantum numbers, meaning their intrinsic spin, parity and charge conjugation. The charge conjugation is actually well defined only for neutral particles. For example the neutral pion \pi^0 is a J^{PC}=0^{-+}, the well-known J/\psi is a J^{PC}=1^{--}.

What are the these intrinsic quantum number for your particles A, B and C? Only knowing these quantities you can determine whether or not the decay can happen and what the final value of the relative angular momentum must be. Once you also know the value of the final L you can compute the action of the CP operator.

Consider for example, as mfb said, the H→γγ decay. The Standard Model Higgs should be (if I remember correctly) a J^{PC}=0^{++}, while the photon is a J^{PC}=1^{--}. Therefore our decay is basically:
$$
0^{++}\to 1^{--}1^{--}
$$

As you can see, if you add together the spins of the final photons you have 1+1=0,1,2 and so you can obtain the initial J=0 configuration even without any relative angular momentum between the final photons.

Now you could ask: can the two final photons be in an L=1 configuration? We have:
$$
CP|H\rangle=+|H\rangle,
$$
$$
P|\gamma\gamma\rangle=(-1)(-1)(-1)^L|\gamma\gamma\rangle=-|\gamma\gamma\rangle,
$$
and finally
$$C|\gamma\gamma\rangle=(-1)(-1)(-1)^{L+S}|\gamma\gamma\rangle=+|\gamma\gamma\rangle.$$

Therefore the CP of the final state is -1 and, if CP is a good symmetry for this decay, then it's not allowed.
 
If B and C are two distinct particles, charge conjugation isn't relevant in the decay.
A spin zero particle can decay into two spin one particles.
 

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