# Craft Beers, Microbreweries and Homebrewing

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I like the craft beers found at various microbreweries like the Rock Bottom Tavern in SD,

The Big River Grille and Brewing Work in Chattanooga
http://www.bigrivergrille.com/

Roosters Brewing Company in Ogden, UT
http://roostersbrewingco.com/

Stone Brewing Co, North County, San Diego
http://www.stonebrew.com/home.asp

The gardens at Stone are a wonderful place to enjoy dinner and several beers. They have one of the best selections that I've ever experienced - including their own and many from the Lost Abbey - http://www.lostabbey.com/lost-abbey-beers/ [Broken]. As a beer connoisseur, one has to try Lost Abbey ales! One has to taste Angel's Share.
http://www.lostabbey.com/lost-abbey-beers/non-denominational-ales/the-angels-share/ [Broken]

I still need to venture to Brewery Ommegang - http://www.ommegang.com/ :tongue2:

(split off from Walgreens not-a-beer thread :yuck: )

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I'll have to make sure to get a sampling of ales and lagers from Oak Pond Brewery next time you're coming through here. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. My favorites are Nut Brown Ale and White Fox Ale.

If you can hang out a bit, we can do a tour of that little brewery, and taste-test all the brews on tap before buying growlers of whatever brews you like best.

http://www.oakpondbrewery.com/

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Now I feel guilty for starting the Big Flats thread. So I'll attempt to get a little honor back here.

These are the beers made at my favorite microbrewer:

http://freestatebrewing.com/beer" [Broken]

In particular, Wheat State Golden.

They have a good food menu too:

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Now I feel guilty for starting the Big Flats thread. So I'll attempt to get a little honor back here.

These are the beers made at my favorite microbrewer:

http://freestatebrewing.com/beer" [Broken]

In particular, Wheat State Golden.

They have a good food menu too:

Next time I'm out that way, I'll have to check it out.

I looked into a local distributor to see if I could get Boulevard after Evo's recommendation. Apparently it's not available in the NE.

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Studiot

One thing puzzles me.

Are american beers brewed with bottom yeasts or top yeasts?

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One thing puzzles me.

Are american beers brewed with bottom yeasts or top yeasts?
Yes.

Original brewers were English of course. Irish, German, Czech and Dutch immigrants brought their own methods later.

I can't vouch for the following, but here is one site's history of American brewing.

http://www.beerinfo.com/index.php/pages/beerhistory.html

and there's wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_the_United_States

Perhaps more believeable is the history at BeerAdvocate

Studiot

I'm still puzzled.

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Top-fermenting yeasts are used for brewing ales, porters, stouts, Altbier, Kölsch, and wheat beers.

. . . .

Some of the lager styles made from bottom-fermenting yeasts are Pilsners, Dortmunders, Märzen, Bocks, and American malt liquors.

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Top or bottom would depend on style. The English Ales would to top-fermenting yeast brews.

Pilsners (Czech) and German Lagers would be bottom-fermenting yeast brews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilsner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_lager

In the end, it depends of the type of beer and/or who makes it.

Insanity

There's a lack of microbreweries by me, 5 I think within 50 miles. One just lost their general store to fire, possibly arson.

Bell's Brewery is quite good
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Dark Horse (the one that had the fire)
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http://www.darkhorsebrewery.com/

Old Hat Brewery & Grill
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Bilbo' Pizza brew their own, but primarily a restaurant.
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Their site has nothing on their brewing it seems

Olde Peninsula Brewpub, another restaurant with brewery
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http://www.oldepenkazoo.com/

Bell's has done some really good beers, and they're experimenting with Brett yeasts and have gotten some decent sour beers.

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Astro,
While in Corvallis did you try http://www.mcmenamins.com/corvallis" [Broken]?

I am partial to thier Terminator Stout.

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nismaratwork

I have no clue what it is, but yesterday the friends I'm shacked up with here in Chicago brought out a really good Belgian beer. It wasn't too hoppy, but it wasn't sweet either. I'm no fan of beer, but this was OK to me, which usually means that other people love it.

I'm still surprised these days when American friends have 5 beers in their fridge, and all are different beers! I always thought: America: the choice is 'Bud' or 'Coors'... which is really just a suggestion to drink water.

nismaratwork

Astro,
While in Corvallis did you try http://www.mcmenamins.com/corvallis" [Broken]?

I am partial to thier Terminator Stout.

re bold: Wow... terminator?! So named because, having had a 6-pack one's eyes glow red as well?

Seriously though, when did America start making all of this beer? I'm out of touch in the drinking (socially of course) world.

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Astro,
While in Corvallis did you try http://www.mcmenamins.com/corvallis" [Broken]?

I am partial to their Termination Stout.
Yes. I had dinner at McMenamins the last night there, and I had the Termination Stout. The Stout is quite good.

I also visited Rogue Ales Public House in Eugene and Block 15 Restaurant and Brewery in Corvallis.
http://www.rogue.com/beers/beers.php [Broken]
http://block15.com/

re bold: Wow... terminator?! So named because, having had a 6-pack one's eyes glow red as well?

Seriously though, when did America start making all of this beer? I'm out of touch in the drinking (socially of course) world.

1982 For the first time since prohibition, a brewery is allowed to open that not only sells its' beer at its' own bar on premises, but serves food to boot. In Bert Grant's Yakima Brewing and Malting Co., Inc., the Brew Pub is born.

1984 44 Brewing concerns are operating a total of 83 breweries.
Micro Breweries begin to spread: Riley-Lyon (AR): Boulder (CO); Snake River (ID); Millstream (IA); Columbia River (OR); Kessler (MT); Chesapeake Bay (VA).

1996 1,102 craft breweries produce 5.3 million barrels; a record 333 new brewpubs and microbreweries open in one year.

2001 1,458 breweries produce 6.2 million barrels of beer. Annual dollar volume for craft beer is $3.4 billion. US brewing industry total is$51 billion.

Current numbers

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Jimmy Snyder
re bold: Wow... terminator?! So named because, having had a 6-pack one's eyes glow red as well?

Seriously though, when did America start making all of this beer? I'm out of touch in the drinking (socially of course) world.
No later than 1620. When the pilgrims came to America, they brought beer with them.

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nismaratwork

Astronuc, Jimmy: I think I just learned more about the history of marijuana and beer in the USA than I've learned previously in life. Thanks!

So... these breweries... do you think they'll compete internationally with major brands? It seems that the USA is unfairly labeled (pun) as a "bad beer" country, but clearly that's only true if you want it to be.

Jimmy: Whoa, they brought more than beer with them! No wonder they were so brave, they were stoned, and swimming in booze. It's amazing though... you went from prohibition "moonshine" and gin, to artisan beers in a very short time. This is part of what is so wonderful in the USA; all of the cultures together mean the food and drinks can be very exciting.

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I believe that US craft brews are being recognized around the world - particularly in Europe.

Meanwhile - FYI -

http://www.brewmorebeer.com/

http://www.americancraftbeerweek.org/ [Broken]

http://www.brewersassociation.org/pages/events/great-american-beer-festival [Broken]

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nismaratwork

I believe that US craft brews are being recognized around the world - particularly in Europe.

Meanwhile - FYI -

http://www.brewmorebeer.com/

http://www.americancraftbeerweek.org/ [Broken]

http://www.brewersassociation.org/pages/events/great-american-beer-festival [Broken]

Hmmm... Maybe it's time for a trip to the US Pacific Northwest this season. Maybe during the hazelnut harvest in Oregon... I LOVE that.

Thanks for the links... I have a lot to learn about beer it seems.

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Jimmy Snyder

This brewery predates the Incas.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10043096/ns/technology_and_science-science/" [Broken]

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nismaratwork

This brewery predates the Incas.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10043096/ns/technology_and_science-science/" [Broken]

Whoa... and people thought prohibition would work. I'm not much for drinking, but really, it's clearly something people have enjoyed for millennia.

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My favorite beer is the Ayinger Celerbrator. It has a strong malt taste up front and finishes with a nutty/chocolate taste on the back of your tongue. Too easy to drink; I have to force myself to sip it (at $15/4-pack). I even have the official glassses. Studiot Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #### Attachments • Flusters.jpg 8.1 KB · Views: 480 • beer.gif 5.5 KB · Views: 1,024 Insanity Just got my Brewer's Association package in the mail, Zymurgy issue should follow soon. Considering preparing for the Beer Judging Certification Program exam, need to become quite familiar with all 97 or so styles of beer, mead and cider. Gold Member Staff Emeritus Science Advisor A friend and colleague just informed me of 3 Floyds Brewery in Munster, Indiana. http://www.3floyds.com/our-beers-2/ [Broken] They have some good beers - especially Scottish Ale, Pale Ales, Stouts and Porter. Last edited by a moderator: Ronnin I have to contribute my couple of cents with some of my favorite Texas beers. Real Ale Brewing Blanco, TX My favorite, Fireman's 4 St. Arnolds Brewery Houston, TX My favorite, Lawnmower and their IPA Shiner Shiner, TX Although not a microbrew, I do enjoy pretty much anything these guys make. nismaratwork I tried something called... UFO citrus... or something like that. I'm not sure about the name, but for beer, it was very refreshing. gravenewworld A friend and colleague just informed me of 3 Floyds Brewery in Munster, Indiana. http://www.3floyds.com/our-beers-2/ [Broken] They have some good beers - especially Scottish Ale, Pale Ales, Stouts and Porter. YES! 3 Floyds Russian Imperial Stout is like drinking nectar of the gods. It's always one of the most highly rated beers in the world. Last edited by a moderator: Staff Emeritus Science Advisor YES! 3 Floyds Russian Imperial Stout is like drinking nectar of the gods. It's always one of the most highly rated beers in the world. gnw, you can get 3 Floyds where you are?! I have to contribute my couple of cents with some of my favorite Texas beers. Real Ale Brewing Blanco, TX My favorite, Fireman's 4 St. Arnolds Brewery Houston, TX My favorite, Lawnmower and their IPA Shiner Shiner, TX Although not a microbrew, I do enjoy pretty much anything these guys make. My god, it's like you took the words right out of my mouth. I love the Fireman's #4; tis my summer beer. While St. Arnold Winter Stout be my winter beer, and their Spring Bock is always on my shopping list...come spring. Nicodemus http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/119/431/ Otter creek Stovepipe Porter... I LOVE this beer. It avoids being sweet, while still laying on the malt and rich flavors. It's absolutely perfect with red meat, or even as a sipping beer. I'm adding this image: [PLAIN]http://www.yearlylesson.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Otter-Creek-Stovepipe-Porter.jpg [Broken] It actually pours with a nice head, but you can't see that here... but HERE: Yeah... it's dark, and rick, but NOT thick. I'm a big fan (maybe a local thing) of what Dogfish Head puts out, but my favorite beer of all time was some small-batch heffeweisen I had once, and never since. I don't know if it's even sold, or if it was a house beer, but it's was rich and almost sweet: it was like drinking amazing bread. Beyond that, my favorite has already been mentioned: Ayinger Celerbrator. It's pricey, but you don't drink quickly or to get trashed, just for the meal in a cup. I love it with Kabanosy, some cheese, mustard, and brown or black bread. Last edited by a moderator: Science Advisor Gold Member I think I messed up. Usually I keep cheap beer on hand; having to watch my finances. But I ran out of beer last night and since it's Sunday and the liquor stores are closed on Sundays here, I made a trip to the Free State Brewery, where you can get your jugs refilled on Sundays until 7:00pm. They provide the 64oz jugs and it cost about$8 for a refill, so that's what I did. Damn, I should have bought a new jug full of that good wheat beer. It's going down way to smooth and fast. :(

gravenewworld

gnw, you can get 3 Floyds where you are?!

No, I can not get 3 Floyds where I currently am. I had their Russian imperial at their brewery on 'Dark Lord Day' when my friend in IN and I got tickets to the event. I believe they only sell the Dark Lord at their brewery only. It is insanely delicious and is almost indescribable. I've never had anything like it or anything that can match close to it. The thing I like most about American brews is the fact that we aren't afraid to experiment. A ton of European beers are stuck in their traditions, which is fine and all, but their beers never change. Americans use so many more ingredients, have more styles, and have much wider array of flavors. You will almost never see a good IPA outside of the US. Not many breweries outside of the US make good porters and stouts either (sorry Guinness doesn't count) also.

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Nicodemus

When did this microbrewery thing really start anyway? I remember when it was foreign beer, or panther piss (bud): things have gotten REALLY good in the intervening years for people who like beer, not just drinking.

to Greg Bernhardt, are those giant copper cookers and stills?! I want whatever they're making in those, but this thread is a litany of great beers I can't get! Oh why wasn't I born in the Pacific Northwest!? Por que dios mio, POR QUEEEE?!

Nicodemus

http://www.newglarusbrewing.com/Beers.cfm?BeerID=80 [Broken]
and the Coffee Stout... I want them. O.O

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