Cycle/closed integration question

In summary, the conversation revolves around a formula for calculating the net work done by a piston in varying pressure and volume. The speaker has questions about the use of the same equation for two different curves and the possibility of the integral reducing to zero. They also mention the use of notation and the concept of an "exact derivative."
  • #1
Jamessamuel
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Hello,
im sorry the picture is upside down. But my problem is with this formula:

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The book i am reading from says the net work done in moving a piston which must push gases, varying the pressure and volume is given by the formula shown in the picture. He then reduces it to what he calls a "cycle integral".I have a few questions/problems:
1.Why, if there are 2 distinct curves present is he using the same equation/ integral for both?
2. surely, if the limits are arranged like so, the whole thing should reduce to zero?
this is exactly how the book showed it.

Regards,

James.
 
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I'm not sure what notation is used but those two integrals should be over the two different paths. If the integrand, p (pressure?), is an "exact derivative" (in physics a "conservative" function), meaning that there exist some function, F(x,y), such that [itex]\nabla F= p[/itex] then each integral would just be F(p;2)- F(p1) and F(p1)- F(p2) so there sum is 0. But if the integrand is NOT exact the integral along two different paths will not be the same.
 

1. What is cycle/closed integration?

Cycle/closed integration is a process in which various components or systems work together in a cyclical manner to achieve a specific goal or function. This can involve feedback loops and continuous improvement to optimize performance.

2. How does cycle/closed integration differ from open integration?

In cycle/closed integration, the components are interconnected and work together in a closed system, whereas in open integration, the components may be separate entities that communicate with each other but do not necessarily work together in a cyclical manner.

3. What are the benefits of using cycle/closed integration in scientific research?

Cycle/closed integration can help to improve the efficiency and accuracy of scientific research by allowing for continuous feedback and adjustments. It also promotes a more holistic approach to problem-solving and can lead to more innovative solutions.

4. Can cycle/closed integration be applied to different scientific fields?

Yes, cycle/closed integration can be applied to various scientific fields such as biology, ecology, engineering, and computer science. It is a versatile concept that can be adapted to different systems and processes.

5. Are there any challenges or limitations to implementing cycle/closed integration?

One challenge of cycle/closed integration is ensuring that all components are properly interconnected and functioning together. There may also be limitations in terms of data or resources available for continuous feedback and improvement. Additionally, implementing cycle/closed integration may require a significant amount of planning and coordination.

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