Cylindrical coordinates: unit vectors and time derivatives

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I have found expressions for the unit vectors for cylindrical coordinates in terms of unit vectors in rectangular coordinates.
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I have also found the time derivatives of the unit vectors in cylindrical coordinates. However, I am having trouble seeing how it simplifies. For instance, I do not understand how to arrive at the following for the rho hat unit vector.
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Can someone enlighten me, please?
 

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Mason Smith said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I have found expressions for the unit vectors for cylindrical coordinates in terms of unit vectors in rectangular coordinates.
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I have also found the time derivatives of the unit vectors in cylindrical coordinates. However, I am having trouble seeing how it simplifies. For instance, I do not understand how to arrive at the following for the rho hat unit vector.
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Can someone enlighten me, please?
You have $$\dot{\hat{\rho}}=(-\sin{\phi}\hat{x}+\cos{\phi}\hat{y})\dot{\phi}$$But you already showed that $$\hat{\phi}=(-\sin{\phi}\hat{x}+\cos{\phi}\hat{y})$$
Do you see how it works out now?
 
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Chestermiller said:
You have $$\dot{\hat{\rho}}=(-\sin{\phi}\hat{x}+\cos{\phi}\hat{y})\dot{\phi}$$But you already showed that $$\hat{\phi}=(-\sin{\phi}\hat{x}+\cos{\phi}\hat{y})$$
Do you see how it works out now?
That makes perfect sense. Thank you so much for the insight, Chestermiller! :smile: