DC-AC converters, Solar inverters

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The discussion revolves around the functioning of DC-AC converters, specifically solar inverters. Participants explore the mechanisms of H-bridges, pulse-width modulation, and the conversion of DC to AC, as well as the role of inductors and transformers in achieving a pure sine wave output.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the basic operation of solar inverters, noting that transistors in an H-bridge are controlled by an oscillator to convert DC to a square wave AC.
  • Another participant confirms the generation of a rectangular wave from the transistor bridge and explains that pulse-width modulation (PWM) is used to control the mean voltage, with filtering through an inductor to achieve a sinusoidal output.
  • A participant questions the role of the first H-bridge in a provided schematic, suggesting it does not convert DC to AC and seeks clarification on its function.
  • Another participant explains that the first H-bridge steps up the DC voltage and that its output is converted back to DC before being processed by the second H-bridge to create a sine wave.
  • There is mention of a safety transformer and alternative configurations involving inductors and transformers, with some uncertainty expressed about the design choices made in the inverter circuit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the function of the first H-bridge in the inverter circuit, with some asserting it contributes to AC generation while others question its role. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific functions and design choices of the components involved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in their understanding of the circuit design and the specific voltages involved at various points in the inverter, indicating a reliance on assumptions and incomplete information.

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(I am a big newbie when it comes to electrical circuits)

So I am searching the Internet for how the Solar inverters work. Most schemes that I come across have an H-bridge with some sort of transistors. Now how I understand the transistors are controlled by an oscillator and bridge itself then converts DC current to AC current (though a square wave one).
Is this correct so far? Also, how do they get a pure sine wave from a square wave? By using inductors?
 
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Gytax said:
Also, how do they get a pure sine wave from a square wave? By using inductors?

Yes, you are right.

The output from the transistor bridge is a rectangular wave, where the relation between high-voltage-time and low-voltage-time is varied. It is called a pwm-signal ( pulse-width-modulated signal ):

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In this way the mean voltage in the output signal can be controlled, and filtering the ouput current through an inductor, it will become sinusoidal. If the net-frequency is 50Hz, the rectangular signal could be clocked at say 16kHz.

The net is regarded as a synchronous motor to be driven. The inverter will simply follow the net/motor frequency and will try to accelerate the motor thereby delivering power to the net/motor. This is done by making a phaseshift ( 90 degrees which yields max torque as for the motor ) and the relation between active/reactive power can be controlled by the amplitude of the output voltage. If a negative phaseshift is made ( -90 degrees ) you will brake the motor/consume power from the net. So the inverter can easy be made an AC-DC converter.
 
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I came across the scheme I am sharing a link to below. I have a hard time understanding how does the first H-bridge (Q2-Q5) NOT convert the DC to AC. Apparently, this conversion is only achieved in the second H-bridge (Q6-Q9). What other function could the first bridge serve?
http://solar.smps.us/grid-tie-inverter-schematic.png
 
Well, first of all the L1-Q1 circuit acts as a DC-Voltage step up circuit ( don't remember its name ). So C2 will be charged with a higher voltage than C1.

In principle C2 could be charged to as high voltage as needed (voltage crossing C3) with respect to the grid-voltage. But of some reason "they" have chosen to make an "inter-inverter" that drives the transformer T1, probably at some high frequency ( say 1kHz sinusoidal ). Then of course you are missing the (safety)transformer, T1, that separates the solar common voltage from the grid-voltage, but Q2-Q5 and T1 can be used to further step-up the voltage.

Missing the safety-transformer, T1, you could instead replace L3-A and L3-B with a transformer with a core wherein is made an air-gap. In this way the surrogat transformer will act as a transformer and a reactance at the same time.

So you may read my answer to your question: I cannot really explain why it is made as is. It could be made otherwise.
 
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2sin54 said:
I have a hard time understanding how does the first H-bridge (Q2-Q5) NOT convert the DC to AC.

Q2 -Q5 indeed does make AC from the stepped up DC voltage at C2.
That AC is immediately made back into DC by bridge D2-D5 and smoothed by L2-C3.

2sin54 said:
What other function could the first bridge serve?
The first bridge and T1 together raise the low solar panel DC voltage to a higher DC voltage suitable for the second bridge to chop into a sinewave , as Hesch showed in post #2. Observe that to chop DC into 120 volts AC you need to start with 120√2 volts .of DC..

While they didn't say what is voltage at C2 i'd bet a steak dinner it's a lot less less than at C3 .
If you have one of these gizmos take a look ay C2 and C3. Their working voltages will be written on their sides.
 
Thanks guys for the replies and clearing things up.
 

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