De Broglie Wavelength at Relativistic velocity

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The discussion focuses on deriving the de Broglie wavelength for a particle accelerated to relativistic speeds. The correct formula is presented as λ = h/√(2m₀eV)(1 + eV/2m₀c²)⁻¹/². Participants clarify that the kinetic energy equation used must account for relativistic effects rather than the classical form, which leads to confusion in the calculations. The correct momentum expression is derived using energy conservation principles, highlighting the importance of including relativistic factors. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the need to adapt classical equations for relativistic scenarios to achieve accurate results.
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Homework Statement


A particle has charge e and masse m0. It is accelerated by a charge V to a relativistic velocity. Show that its de Broglie wavelength is:
\lambda = \frac{h}{\sqrt{2m_0eV}} (1+\frac{eV}{2m_0c^2})^{-\frac{1}{2}}

Homework Equations


\lambda = \frac{h}{p}
Conservation of energy can be used. Our potential energy is:
PE = eV
Kinetic energy is:
KE = \frac{1}{2}m_0v^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using:
eV = \frac{1}{2}m_0v^2
That gave me:
\sqrt{\frac{2eV}{m_0}} = v

This matches what is in the denominator below Planck's constant (when multiplied with m0). However, the expression in the parenthesis is what doesn't make sense to me. My answer is:

\lambda = \frac{h}{\sqrt{2m_0eV}} (1-\frac{2eV}{m_0c^2})^{\frac{1}{2}}
Why is this wrong?
 
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Avatrin said:
Kinetic energy is:
KE=12m0v2​
KE = \frac{1}{2}m_0v^2
is only correct for NON-relativistic speeds ...
 
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Here you find the right expression for p to use. It works. I think the difference is a factor gamma somewhere. I can't make out how you go from your expression for v to your last answer for ##\lambda##.
 
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I found a way that gave me the correct solution. However, I do not understand it.

eV = \sqrt{p^2c^2 + m_0^2c^4} - m_0c^2
This gave me the correct answer for p:
p = ((\frac{eV}{c})^2 + 2em_0V)^{\frac{1}{2}} = \sqrt{2m_0eV}\sqrt{1 + \frac{eV}{2m_0c^2}}

However, since the particle is at rest at first, why shouldn't the left hand side of the expression above be eV + m0c2?
 
?? where do you think the "- mc2" on the right-hand side came from?
 
There was a Show button on the page where the link in post #2 pointed. Sorry I didn't point that out (or gave that as a link directly)
 
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