De-Rationalizing a Surd Fraction: Step-by-Step Guide

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The discussion revolves around finding limits of expressions involving surd fractions and trigonometric functions, specifically focusing on the limit of \(\frac{\sqrt{6-x}-2}{\sqrt{3-x}-1}\) as \(x\) approaches 2 and the limit of \(\frac{\sin^{-1}x}{x}\) as \(x\) approaches 0.

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  • Participants explore the technique of multiplying by conjugates to simplify surd fractions and address undefined expressions. There are attempts to clarify the correct application of this technique and to identify potential errors in the initial setup.
  • In the second part of the discussion, participants consider using series expansion and substitutions to evaluate the limit of \(\frac{\sin^{-1}x}{x}\) as \(x\) approaches 0, questioning whether alternative methods exist.

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Some participants have provided guidance on manipulating the surd expressions, while others are exploring different methods for the limit involving arcsine. There is an ongoing exploration of various approaches without a clear consensus on the best method for each limit.

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Participants are working within the constraints of not using L'Hôpital's rule or explicit definitions for limits, which influences their approaches and reasoning.

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Homework Statement



Find the lim of \frac{\sqrt{6-x}-2}{\sqrt{3-x}-1}when x approaches 2, without using L'hopital rule or the definition.

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I try to multiply both the numerator and the denominator to get \frac{(\sqrt{6-x}-2)(\sqrt{3-x}-1)}{2-x}, but when I substitute x = 2, the term becomes undefined.

Any suggestion? Thanks.

I am thinking of de'rationalize' the rational surd fraction, but nothing works.
 
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1. First off:
There should be a "+1" rather than "-1" in the remaining factor after you myliplied both denominator and numerator with the 2conjugate".

2. secondly:
do the same "conjugate trick", with the surd expression that is contained in the numerator.
 
Oops, sorry. Now I have

\frac{\sqrt{6-x}-2}{\sqrt{3-x}-1}

=\frac{(\sqrt{6-x}-2)(\sqrt{3-x}+1)}{(\sqrt{3-x}-1))(\sqrt{3-x}+1)}

=\frac{(\sqrt{6-x}-2)(\sqrt{3-x}+1)}{2-x}
 
Correct.
Now do the same trick with the other surd expression.
 
Yay, I get it. I multiply by another conjugate and eventually the (2-x) term will cancel out. Then I will get 2/4 which is equal to 1/2. Thanks so much for the help. :)

\frac{\sqrt{6-x}-2}{\sqrt{3-x}-1}

=\frac{(\sqrt{6-x}-2)(\sqrt{3-x}+1)}{(\sqrt{3-x}-1))(\sqrt{3-x}+1)}

=\frac{(\sqrt{6-x}-2)(\sqrt{3-x}+1)}{2-x}

=\frac{(\sqrt{6-x}-2)(\sqrt{3-x}+1)(\sqrt{6-x}+2)}{(2-x)(\sqrt{6-x}+2)}

=\frac{(\sqrt{3-x}+1)(2-x)}{(2-x)(\sqrt{6-x}+2)}

=\frac{\sqrt{3-x}+1}{\sqrt{6-x}+2}

So if I replace x = 2, I will get 2/4 = 1/2. :)
 
:smile:
 
Another question:

Find the limit of \frac{sin^{-1}x}{x} when x approaches 0.

The answer given is 1.

Seems like I can't express arcsin explicitly. Any clue on how to start? :)
 
Can I use the series expansion?

\frac{sin^{-1}x}{x}

=\frac{x+\frac{X^3}{6}+\frac{3x^5}{40}+...}{x}

=1+\frac{x^2}{6}+\frac{3x^4}{40}+...

Then I can get limit = 1 when I substitute x = 0.

Can we get the same answer without using the series expansion thingy?
 
Or, you could make the substitution x=sin(u), which is valid in the neighbourhood of x=0.
 

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