Deceleration of a man falling off a cliff into snow

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The problem involves a scenario where a man falls from a height of 37.8 meters and experiences deceleration upon landing in soft snow. The context relates to the effects of deceleration on the human body and the physics of free fall and impact.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of constant acceleration equations and question the interpretation of gravitational acceleration. There are attempts to calculate the time of fall and final velocity upon impact, as well as the distance traveled through the snow.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations and expressed uncertainty about their results, prompting requests for advice and verification of their methods. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with no explicit consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note confusion regarding the value of gravitational acceleration and the appropriateness of the equations used for the calculations. There is an emphasis on understanding the implications of deceleration and the physical setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A person can just survive a full-body collision (either to the front, back, or side) which results in a deceleration that is up about 100 g's. (One g is 9.8 m/s/s). At greater deceleration fatal brain damage will likely occur. If a 66.4 kg man falls of a cliff of height 37.8 m but manages to land flat on his back in soft snow, undergoing a constant deceleration of this magnitude, how deep would he be buried in the snow?

I feel like this is very simple and I'm just over thinking it...

dy = 37.8 m
g = -980 m/s2

(Not sure about g...)

Homework Equations



Possibly one of the constant acceleration equations (not sure which).

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to think about it as if the man was a car driving horizontally then suddenly begins to decelerate, then tried to find his distance after he breaks. No luck. I still can't figure it out... Any advice would be appreciated! :)
 
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salmayoussef said:
g = -980 m/s2

(Not sure about g...)
Why would you be "not sure"? In the problem it says "(One g is 9.8 m/s/s)"

You know that v= gt where v is the speed after t seconds and d= (g/2)t^2 where d is the distance traveled in t seconds. How long will it take to fall 37.8 m? (I assume that is the distance to the top of the snowbank.) What will his speed be at that point (as he hits the snow bank).

At -100g= -980 m/s^2 (was that what you meant, not "g= -980 m/s2"?) how long will it take for him to stop (his speed to become 0)? And how far will he have gone through the snow in that time?
 
Well, I tried it out using d = 0.5gt2 and found that the time is 2.78 s.

Then using time, I found that the final velocity was 27.2 m/s. (v = gt)

Then for the snow portion, I tried to find time using the same equation and got 0.028 s which I don't think is right. Waaaaay too fast!

And finally, I used d = 0.5(Vf+Vi)t to find that d = 0.38 m. But it isn't the proper answer! Any advice?
 
salmayoussef said:
Well, I tried it out using d = 0.5gt2 and found that the time is 2.78 s.

Then using time, I found that the final velocity was 27.2 m/s. (v = gt)

Then for the snow portion, I tried to find time using the same equation and got 0.028 s which I don't think is right. Waaaaay too fast!
Show your working so we can see where you may be going wrong. Or confirm that you're right.
 
The equation d = 0.5gt^2 looks like a variant of the SUVAT equations of motion. This problem is mostly about distance and velocity so why use one that involves time? That's not the wrong approach but it might be worth you looking at some of the others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equations_of_motion#SUVAT_equations
 

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