Is the Constraint Holonomic in This Situation?

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The discussion centers on whether the constraint involving a bead and a wire is holonomic, with the key argument being that the constant distance between the bead's surface and the wire's surface can be expressed as an equation of coordinates. There is a debate about the implications of the wire's complex motion and whether it can be ignored by assuming a stationary reference frame. Participants question if the wire's acceleration affects the bead's motion and if the wire's motion can be simplified to a zeroth order differential equation. The conclusion leans towards recognizing the constraint as holonomic, provided the assumptions about the wire's motion are valid. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for accurately modeling the system.
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The smallest distance between the bead's surface and the wire's surface is always constant and it can be expressed as an equation of coordinates. So, this is a holonomic constraint.

Is this correct?
 

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Pushoam said:

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The smallest distance between the bead's surface and the wire's surface is always constant and it can be expressed as an equation of coordinates. So, this is a holonomic constraint.

Is this correct?
The wire moves through space in a complicated way. How do you interpret that? Can you ignore the motion of the wire in space? If you assumed a reference frame at rest with respect to the wire, could you ignore the effects of the wire's acceleration on the motion of the bead? Can you express the motion of the wire as a zeroth order differential equation?
 
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