Demonstrating Propagator is Virtual

  • Thread starter Thread starter maximus123
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Propagator Virtual
maximus123
Messages
48
Reaction score
0
Hello,

I've been given a problem which is asking me to flesh out a calculation. The calculation is word for word like this;

consider, for example, an electron of total energy E, momentum p, and mass m being scattered as another electron absorbs the exchanged photon. The relativistic relation between E, p, and m is;

E^2-p^2=m^2​

If the electron emits a photon of energy \Delta E and momentum \Delta p then

E \Delta E-p \Delta p=0​

So that the mass of the exchanged photon is

\Delta m^2=\Delta E^2- \Delta p^2=-\frac{m^2 \Delta p^2}{E^2}<0​

So I am being asked to work this out in detail, fill in all the steps. I thought that maybe I should try and show that the four momentum squared is not conserved at the vertex, i.e that the sum of the four momentum squared of the two electrons could not equal the four momentum squared of the photon and it was that violation that showed the particle was virtual;

q^2=(p_e + p_e)^2

q^2=2p_e^2​

Where q^2 is the four momentum squared of the photon (i.e the mass of the photon) and p_e^2 is the four momentum squared of the electron, hence on one side of the vertex there are two electrons and on the other side there is a photon. The four momentum for the electron is (E, \textbf{p}) so;

q^2=2[E^2-(p_x^2+p_y^2+p_z^2)]

=2(E^2-|\textbf{p}|^2)

q^2=2m^2​

Clearly this is going nowhere near the result result in the problem. Am I on the right track? I know I have probably made a dozen mistakes here as I am new to these sort of calculations. I would greatly appreciate if anyone could explain how to achieve the result above.

Thanks
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Sorry, when I say

I thought that maybe I should try and show that the four momentum squared is not conserved at the vertex, i.e that the sum of the four momentum squared of the two electrons could not equal the four momentum squared of the photon and it was that violation that showed the particle was virtual

What I mean is use the fact that four momentum is conserved at the vertex to show that the equation for energy mass and momentum does not apply to the propagator, hence virtual.
 
Something seems strange to me in the original wording. I just did a quick calculation, and found that ##E\Delta E - p\Delta p = 0## only if ##\Delta E^2 - \Delta p^2 = 0##, i.e., if the photon is on-shell.

Are you sure you've got the original wording right, and complete?
 
##|\Psi|^2=\frac{1}{\sqrt{\pi b^2}}\exp(\frac{-(x-x_0)^2}{b^2}).## ##\braket{x}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{\pi b^2}}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dx\,x\exp(-\frac{(x-x_0)^2}{b^2}).## ##y=x-x_0 \quad x=y+x_0 \quad dy=dx.## The boundaries remain infinite, I believe. ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{\pi b^2}}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dy(y+x_0)\exp(\frac{-y^2}{b^2}).## ##\frac{2}{\sqrt{\pi b^2}}\int_0^{\infty}dy\,y\exp(\frac{-y^2}{b^2})+\frac{2x_0}{\sqrt{\pi b^2}}\int_0^{\infty}dy\,\exp(-\frac{y^2}{b^2}).## I then resolved the two...
Hello everyone, I’m considering a point charge q that oscillates harmonically about the origin along the z-axis, e.g. $$z_{q}(t)= A\sin(wt)$$ In a strongly simplified / quasi-instantaneous approximation I ignore retardation and take the electric field at the position ##r=(x,y,z)## simply to be the “Coulomb field at the charge’s instantaneous position”: $$E(r,t)=\frac{q}{4\pi\varepsilon_{0}}\frac{r-r_{q}(t)}{||r-r_{q}(t)||^{3}}$$ with $$r_{q}(t)=(0,0,z_{q}(t))$$ (I’m aware this isn’t...
Hi, I had an exam and I completely messed up a problem. Especially one part which was necessary for the rest of the problem. Basically, I have a wormhole metric: $$(ds)^2 = -(dt)^2 + (dr)^2 + (r^2 + b^2)( (d\theta)^2 + sin^2 \theta (d\phi)^2 )$$ Where ##b=1## with an orbit only in the equatorial plane. We also know from the question that the orbit must satisfy this relationship: $$\varepsilon = \frac{1}{2} (\frac{dr}{d\tau})^2 + V_{eff}(r)$$ Ultimately, I was tasked to find the initial...
Back
Top