What is the density of an iceberg and how much of it will show in fresh water?

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The discussion centers on calculating the density of ice based on the proportion of an iceberg that is above sea level, which is one-ninth of its total volume. The participant questions whether atmospheric pressure should be considered when determining the density of ice, noting that it is often disregarded in similar calculations. For the second part of the problem, the participant suggests using the relationship between the densities of ice and water to find how much of the iceberg would be submerged in fresh water. They draw a parallel to the experience of feeling air pressure on a piece of paper, highlighting the complexities of buoyancy in water versus air. The conversation emphasizes the application of Newton's laws in understanding buoyancy and density relationships.
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Homework Statement



a) If the part of an iceberg above sea level is one ninth of the whole, what is the density of ice?

b)How much of the iceberg would show if it moved into a fresh water region?

Homework Equations


Density of sea water=1025kgm^-3
Density of fresh water 1000kgm^-3

Weight displaced=upthrust
Force due to gravity = mg


The Attempt at a Solution



For part a) I equated the upthrust and the force due to gravity, by applying Newtons first law. However I am confused as to whether I should also take into account the atmospheric pressure pressing the part of the iceberg above sea level down. In all the stuff I've read no one seems to take it into account when finding the density of an iceberg. Is there a reason for this?

In part b) I think you again apply Newtons first law and use the ice density calculated in part a),

\rho_{ice}*g*v_{ice}=\rho_{water}*g*v_{water}

\frac{\rho_{ice}}{\rho_{water}}=\frac{v_{water}}{v_{ice}}

Which gives the proportion of ice under the water.

Please could someone help me?
 
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Vuldoraq said:
However I am confused as to whether I should also take into account the atmospheric pressure pressing the part of the iceberg above sea level down.


If you pick up a piece of paper, do you feel the 1400 pounds of force that air pressure exerts on it?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
If you pick up a piece of paper, do you feel the 1400 pounds of force that air pressure exerts on it?

I do :(
 
Vanadium 50 said:
If you pick up a piece of paper, do you feel the 1400 pounds of force that air pressure exerts on it?

I geuss not, but isn't that because as soon as you pick it up air rushes underneath the paper, very quickly, and the air underneath exerts an equal and oppisite force to the air above, thus we don't feel the pressure force. In the sea this situation is clearly impossible.
 
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