Derivative of a complex function in terms of real and imaginary parts.

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The discussion revolves around the derivative of complex functions expressed in terms of their real and imaginary parts. Participants explore conditions under which the derivative can be represented as a combination of partial derivatives with respect to real variables, particularly focusing on analytic functions and the implications of the Cauchy-Riemann equations.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that for a complex function \( f(z) = u + iv \), the derivative can be expressed as \( f'(z) = \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} + i\frac{\partial v}{\partial x} \), particularly for functions like \( f = \exp \).
  • Others argue that this representation holds true if the function is analytic and satisfies the Cauchy-Riemann equations.
  • A participant mentions that derivatives can be taken in any direction in the complex plane, not just along the real or imaginary axes, suggesting the use of directional derivatives involving unit vectors.
  • Another participant notes that the same derivative result can be obtained regardless of the direction, due to the properties of analytic functions and the Cauchy-Riemann equations.
  • One contribution discusses the idea of viewing a complex differentiable function as a real differentiable function with a Jacobian that represents multiplication by a complex number, linking this to the relationships between partial derivatives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the necessity of the Cauchy-Riemann equations for complex differentiability, but there are multiple competing views regarding the representation of derivatives in different directions and the implications of analyticity. The discussion remains unresolved on certain aspects of directional derivatives.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on the definitions of analyticity and differentiability in the complex context, as well as the potential for ambiguity in the application of directional derivatives.

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Hi, I wonder if anyone knows when (maybe always?) it is true that, where

z=x+iy \text{ and } f : \mathbb{C} \to \mathbb{C} \text{ is expressed as } f=u+iv, \text{ that }<br /> f&#039;(z)=\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}+i\frac{\partial v}{\partial x}?<br />
I'm pretty sure that this is true for f=exp.

I should be able to find this but searching google for mathematics is a nightmare.
 
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Hi,
if f(z) is analytical function, you can take derivative in any direction on complex plane of z, e.g. take it along real axis dz = dx.
 
gauss mouse said:
Hi, I wonder if anyone knows when (maybe always?) it is true that, where

z=x+iy \text{ and } f : \mathbb{C} \to \mathbb{C} \text{ is expressed as } f=u+iv, \text{ that }<br /> f&#039;(z)=\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}+i\frac{\partial v}{\partial x}?<br />
I'm pretty sure that this is true for f=exp.

I should be able to find this but searching google for mathematics is a nightmare.

This is indeed true. But remember that a complex differentiable function must satisfy Cauchy-Riemann equations!

I suggest looking at Theorem I.5.3 of "Complex Analysis" by Freitag and Busam. A free preview is available at google books.
 
quZz said:
Hi,
if f(z) is analytical function, you can take derivative in any direction on complex plane of z, e.g. take it along real axis dz = dx.

Thanks for your help. I should have specified that f be analytic.Say I wanted to take the derivative in another direction, not along the real or imaginary axis, how would I do that?
 
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micromass said:
This is indeed true. But remember that a complex differentiable function must satisfy Cauchy-Riemann equations!

I suggest looking at Theorem I.5.3 of "Complex Analysis" by Freitag and Busam. A free preview is available at google books.

Thanks for your help. That looks from the preview like a nice book. I'll see if I can find it in the college library.
 
gauss mouse said:
Say I wanted to take the derivative in another direction, not along the real or imaginary axis, how would I do that?

This isn't really a question about real analysis, but rather about multivariable limits.

Say we have the unit vector (a,b). To find the derivative in that direction, we can do this by

a\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}+b\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}

This can be done if the function is differentiable at the point.
 
Well, you'll get the same answer because f(z) is analytic, it follows from definition. You can use Cauchy-Riemann equations to get different forms of df/dz.
 
gauss mouse said:
Hi, I wonder if anyone knows when (maybe always?) it is true that, where

z=x+iy \text{ and } f : \mathbb{C} \to \mathbb{C} \text{ is expressed as } f=u+iv, \text{ that }<br /> f&#039;(z)=\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}+i\frac{\partial v}{\partial x}?<br />
I'm pretty sure that this is true for f=exp.

I should be able to find this but searching google for mathematics is a nightmare.

A complex differentiable function may be thought of as a real differentiable function whose Jacobian is multiplication by a complex number. As a linear transformation of R^2 a complex number is a rotation followed by a dilation. This gives you the relations between the partial derivatives of f.
 

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