Derivative of a Noether current from Dirac Equation

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Homework Statement


Hey guys,
Consider the U(1) transformations
[itex]\psi'=e^{i\alpha\gamma^{5}}\psi[/itex] and [itex]\bar{\psi}'=\bar{\psi}e^{i\alpha\gamma^{5}}[/itex] of the Lagrangian [itex]\mathcal{L}=\bar{\psi}(i\partial_{\mu}\gamma^{\mu}-m)\psi[/itex].

I am meant to find the expression for [itex]\partial_{\mu}J^{\mu}[/itex].

Homework Equations


Gamma matrices anticommute
Noether current is [itex]\delta J^{\mu}=\frac{\partial\mathcal{L}}{\partial(\partial_{\mu}\psi)}\delta\psi+\delta x \mathcal{L}[/itex]
not sure of anything else...

The Attempt at a Solution


So here's what I've done so far. Since its a U(1) transformation, the coordinates arent changing, so the Noether current is given by [itex]\delta J^{\mu}=\frac{\partial\mathcal{L}}{\partial(\partial_{\mu}\psi)}\delta\psi[/itex]. I found that [itex]\delta\psi=i\alpha\gamma^{5}\psi[/itex], so that

[itex]\delta J^{\mu}=-\bar{\psi}\alpha\gamma^{\mu}\gamma^{5}\psi[/itex], then I drop the infinitesimal parameter to get
[itex]J^{\mu}=-\bar{\psi}\gamma^{\mu}\gamma^{5}\psi[/itex].

So the next step is to calculate the derivative of this. Doing so, I get

[itex]\partial_{\mu}J^{\mu}=-(\partial_{\mu}\bar{\psi}\gamma^{\mu}\gamma^{5}\psi+\bar{\psi}\gamma^{\mu}\gamma^{5}\partial_{\mu}\psi)[/itex]

And at this point I am stuck...im not sure if this is right and/or if I can simplify this or do something neat with it? because I think I'm meant to be using the transformed Lagrangian
[itex]\mathcal{L}'=i\bar{\psi}\partial_{\mu}\gamma^{\mu}\psi-m\bar{\psi}e^{2i\alpha\gamma^{5}}\psi[/itex]
for something but I don't really know.

Thanks guys..
 
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What equations of motion do you have?
 
I think its just the equations of motion from the untransformed Lagrangian, which are:
[itex](i\partial_{\mu}\gamma^{\mu}-m)\psi=0[/itex]
and
[itex]i(\partial_{\mu}\bar{\psi})\gamma^{\mu}+m\bar{\psi}=0[/itex]
 
So I suggest using those. :)
 
I thought of that but I'm not sure if I can use these because I'm considering the transformed Lagrangian...and the above transformations arent a symmetry unless m = 0. So how can I use these equations of motion?
 
The fields will follow their equations of motion. Had the transformation of the fields been a symmetry of the Lagrangian, the divergence of the current would be zero. Since it is not, you will simply get a non-zero expression if you anyway chose to write down the current that would be conserved if the symmetry breaking parameter was zero.
 
I see...so I guess I am doing it wrong? I mean I've found the equations of motion from the transformed Lagrangian
[itex](i\partial_{\mu}\gamma^{\mu}- m e^{2i\alpha\gamma^{5}})\psi=0[/itex]
and
[itex]i \partial_{\mu}\bar{\psi}\gamma^{\mu}+m\bar{\psi}e^{2i\alpha\gamma^{5}}=0[/itex]

and now I'm trying to use THESE inside my expression for [itex]\partial_{\mu}J^{\mu}[/itex]. I guess you're saying to just use the orignals I posted in post #3?
 
I get a nonzero answer either way but I'm not sure which one is right...:(
 
Dixanadu said:
I see...so I guess I am doing it wrong? I mean I've found the equations of motion from the transformed Lagrangian
[itex](i\partial_{\mu}\gamma^{\mu}- m e^{2i\alpha\gamma^{5}})\psi=0[/itex]
and
[itex]i \partial_{\mu}\bar{\psi}\gamma^{\mu}+m\bar{\psi}e^{2i\alpha\gamma^{5}}=0[/itex]

and now I'm trying to use THESE inside my expression for [itex]\partial_{\mu}J^{\mu}[/itex]. I guess you're saying to just use the orignals I posted in post #3?
Yes, this willbe the divergence of the current.
 

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