Derivative of f(x) to the power of g(x), and algebra problem

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The discussion revolves around two mathematical problems involving derivatives and algebraic manipulation. The first problem concerns the differentiation of a function defined as h(x) = [f(x)]^{g(x)}, while the second problem involves finding constants A and B in a rational expression.

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  • Participants explore the differentiation of h(x) using properties of logarithms and the chain rule, questioning the treatment of the function as a simple power function. There are attempts to derive the correct form of the derivative and to clarify the algebraic manipulation involved in the second problem.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the differentiation technique and algebraic methods, while others have raised questions about the correctness of initial assumptions and results. Multiple interpretations of the problems are being explored, particularly regarding the application of differentiation rules and algebraic identities.

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Participants express uncertainty about their approaches and results, indicating a desire for clarification on methods rather than definitive solutions. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in initial attempts, particularly in the algebraic problem.

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Homework Statement



1. If f(x), g(x) and h(x) are real functions of x, show that

when h(x)=[f(x)]^{g(x)}

then h'(x)=[f(x)]^{g(x)}(g'(x)\ln[f(x)]+g(x)\frac{f'(x)}{f(x)})

2. \frac{A}{x}+\frac{B}{P-x}=\frac{1}{x(P-x)} where x is a variable, and P is a constant. Find A and B in terms of P.

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The Attempt at a Solution



1. I start by doing what I usually do, like with x^{x^2}:

[f(x)]^{g(x)-1}.g(x).g'(x)

Looking at the derivative, I see

\int{g'(x)\ln[f(x)]+g(x)\frac{f'(x)}{f(x)}}=g(x)\ln[f(x)]

Which looks nothing like what I got :(

2. Getting a common denominator and canceling:

A(P-x)+Bx=1

Then by inspection,

A=\frac{P}{P^2}
B=\frac{1}{P^2}

It was a fluke that I got that :/. So I'm wondering how to prove it arithmetically, or just some general method of solving these kinds of problems for when I come across them again.
 
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Hi Deadleg,

Deadleg said:

Homework Statement



1. If f(x), g(x) and h(x) are real functions of x, show that

when h(x)=[f(x)]^{g(x)}

then h'(x)=[f(x)]^{g(x)}(g'(x)\ln[f(x)]+g(x)\frac{f'(x)}{f(x)})

The Attempt at a Solution



1. I start by doing what I usually do, like with x^{x^2}:

[f(x)]^{g(x)-1}.g(x).g'(x)

Looking at the derivative, I see

\int{g'(x)\ln[f(x)]+g(x)\frac{f'(x)}{f(x)}}=g(x)\ln[f(x)]

Which looks nothing like what I got :(

If we can get your example x^{x^2} sorted then you will be fine to do the question at hand. We rewrite it as x^{x^2} = e^{x^2\log{x}, and then differentiate (using the chain rule), obtaining (2x\log{x} + x})e^{x^2\log{x}, i.e., (2x\log{x} + x})x^{x^2}.

The exact same technique applies to your problem.

2. \frac{A}{x}+\frac{B}{P-x}=\frac{1}{x(P-x)} where x is a variable, and P is a constant. Find A and B in terms of P.

The Attempt at a Solution



2. Getting a common denominator and canceling:

A(P-x)+Bx=1

Then by inspection,

A=\frac{P}{P^2}
B=\frac{1}{P^2}

It was a fluke that I got that :/. So I'm wondering how to prove it arithmetically, or just some general method of solving these kinds of problems for when I come across them again.
Actually, you're not quite right (did you test your inspection?). From your (correct) equation A(P-x)+Bx=1, we can then gather like terms: x(-A + B) + AP = 1, and then equate coefficients (of powers of x).
 
You can't treat (f(x))^(g(x)) like it was a power function like x^n. f(x)^g(x)=e^(log(f(x)*g(x)). Use the chain rule on that. For the second one, you've got 1=AP-Ax+Bx=AP+(B-A)x. Since those are supposed to be equal for ALL values of x, you must have AP=1 since that's the constant the right side, and (B-A)=0 since there is no x on the right side. And I don't think you got it right.
 
Ah, so for 1.

h(x)=[f(x)]^{g(x)}=e^{g(x)\ln[f(x)]}

h'(x)=e^{g(x)\ln[f(x)]}.(g'(x)\ln[f(x)]+g(x)\frac{f'(x)}{f(x)})

h'(x)=[f(x)]^{g(x)}.(g'(x)\ln[f(x)]+g(x)\frac{f'(x)}{f(x)})



And for 2.

A(P-x)+Bx=1

AP+(B-A)x=1

AP=1,\ A=\frac{1}{P}

B-A=0,\ B=A=\frac{1}{P}
 
That's it exactly.
 

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