Derivative with respect to a vector

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I've stumbled across something I've never seen before. I am taking a class outside of my major and the notation seems to be quite different from what I am used to, and I am completely baffled as to how to solve what I feel are some simple problems.

Homework Statement



Find \frac{d f(\vec{k})}{\vec{k}} where f(\vec{k}) = sin(ak_x)-cos(bk_y)+cos(ck_z). f itself is a scalar function that operates on the components of the vector \vec{k}.

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What does this notation mean? I have never seen a notation in which there is a derivative with respect to a vector. Is this the same thing as the gradient \nabla f?
 
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In general, if a function from R^m to R^n is "differentiable at \vec{v_0}" if and only if there exist a linear function, L, from R^m to R^n and a function \epsilon from R^m to R^n such that f(\vec{v})= f(\vec{v_0})+ L(\vec{v}- \vec{v_0})+ \epsilon(\vec{v}) and \lim_{\vec{v}\to \vec{0}} \epsilon(\vec{v}/|\vec{v}|= 0. In this case, we say that L is the "derivative of f with respect to \vec{v} at vec{v_0}".

Notice that L is a linear operator, not a number or even a vector. In the case f from R^1 to R^1, a real valued function of a single real variable as in Calculus I, a linear function from R^m to R^n is a multiple: mx for some number m. In calculus I, we think of that number as being the derivative.

In the case of f from R^m to R^1, a real valued function of several real variables, we can represent a linear function from R^m to R^1 as a "dot product"- any linear function L(<x, y, z>) can be written as ax+ by+ cz= <a, b, c>\cdot<x, y, z>. In that case, we can identify the derivative with that vector- which is, in fact, the gradient.

That is the case in your example. f is a real valued function of a variable in R^3. Strictly speaking, its derivative is the linear transformation corresponding to taking the dot product of the position vector x\vec{i}+ y\vec{j}+ z\vec{k} with the vector
\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\vec{i}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\vec{j}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial z}\vec{k}
which is, as you say, the gradient of f.

(Notice that we need "vector space" structure in the range space of f because we need to be able to subtract f(x+h)- f(x). We don't need to do "arithmetic" in the domain space because all we do there is take the limit as |h| goes to 0. That's why we tend to talk about "functions of several variables" rather than "functions of a vector variable".)

In the general case of f from R^m to R^n with neither m nor n equal to 1, a linear function from R^m to R^n can be written as a matrix multiplication and we can identify the derivative with that matrix. In the case of \vec{f}(\vec{v})= f_x(x, y, z)\vec{i}+ f_y(x,y,z)\vec{j}+ f_z(x,y,z)\vec{k} (where \vec{v}= x\vec{i}+ y\vec{j}+ z\vec{k}[/itex]) that matrix is
\begin{bmatrix}\frac{\partial^2 f_x}{\partial x^2} &amp; \frac{\partial^2 f_y}{\partial x\partial y} &amp; \frac{\partial^2 f_z}{\partial x\partial z} \\ \frac{\partial^2 f_x}{\partial y\partial x} &amp; \frac{\partial^2 f_y}{\partial y^2} &amp; \frac{\partial^2 f_z}{\partial y\partial z}\\ \frac{\partial^2 f_z}{\partial z\partial x} &amp; \frac{\partial^2 f_z}{\partial z\partial y} &amp; \frac{\partial^2 f_z}{\partial z^2}\end{bmatrix}
 
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wow HallsOfIvy, thank you for the detailed reply, I understand now; I had never really stopped to think about what \nabla{F} meant. I am a bit light on the theory side of calculus so I have to rely on my gut instinct a lot.
 
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