Deriving Strain in Cantilever Beam with Known Deflection

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on deriving the strain at the base of a cantilever beam with a known deflection, specifically under a point load. Participants explore the relationship between bending stress, strain, and deflection, considering different approaches to derive the strain formula.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the strain at the base of a cantilever beam can be derived using the formula strain = Mc/IE, leading to the specific case of strain = -3yc/L^2 when substituting for P based on known deflection.
  • Another participant notes that strain can be positive or negative, depending on whether the outer fibers are in tension or compression, and emphasizes that the derived formula is specific to the case of a point load at the free end.
  • A participant questions whether their approach is correct and seeks alternative methods for deriving the relationship.
  • One reply suggests that the original approach is valid for finding maximum strain as a function of maximum deflection, given that the deflection has already been calculated.
  • A later post mentions the application of this derivation for designing a displacement transducer, aiming to optimize strain for a better signal/noise ratio with a strain gauge.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of agreement regarding the correctness of the approach, with some affirming its validity while others seek alternative methods. The discussion remains unresolved regarding whether a cleaner derivation exists.

Contextual Notes

The discussion is limited by the specific case of a cantilever beam under a point load, and assumptions about the nature of the load and material properties are not fully explored.

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I am trying to derive the strain at the base of a cantilever beam with a known deflection. I know the bending stress is equal to Mc/I, so the strain is Mc/IE, where c is the distance from the neutral axis. For a point load ,P, the strain would then be PL/IE. Since the deflection is known I need to find the point load ,P, for that deflection. From the moment curvature relationship I can derive the deflection,y, to be equal to -PL^3/3EI. Solving for P and substituting it into the previous equation I can solve for the strain to be equal to -3yc/L^2.

This seems to be a roundabout way to solve for the strain. Is there a cleaner way to derive this relationship?
 
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Strain can be positive or negative, positive at the outer fibers in tension and negative at the outer fibers in compression. Otherwise, your equation is very straightforward, provided you note, however, that the strain so derived is the strain at the outer fibers at the base of a cantilever under a point load P applied at the free end , where y is the deflection at that free end under the point load P. It is a very specific formula for a very specific case. The formula strain = Mc/EI is much more general.
 
So my approach is correct? Is there a better way to derive this relationship?
 
Since for whatever reason you want to find max strain as a function of max deflection, your approach is as good as it gets, since you have already calculated the deflection.
 
Alright thanks and the reason is for designing a displacement transducer. I know the working range so I want to optimize the strain in order to get the largest signal/noise ratio with a strain gauge.
 

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