Design of Hollow Shaft to Replace Solid Shaft for Same Shear Stress and Torsion

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The discussion focuses on designing a hollow shaft to replace a solid shaft while maintaining the same shear stress and torsion. Initial calculations led to dimensions of 175mm for the outer diameter and 105mm for the inner diameter, which were questioned due to the expectation that the hollow shaft should be larger. After reviewing the equations and calculations, the correct dimensions were recalculated to be 208mm for the outer diameter and 125mm for the inner diameter. The importance of careful mathematical handling and correct application of formulas was emphasized throughout the discussion. The final values appear to be validated as correct.
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Homework Statement


assuming that the maximum shear stress and torsion are the same in both shafts design a hollow shaft to replace the solid one . the ratio diameters is to be 0.6 for the maximum shear stress i calculated 79.95 x 10 ^6 mn/m2 and for the torsion i calculated 122.78x10^3 in the previous question.


Homework Equations


(T) torque/ (J) polar second moment of area and (t) shear stress/ ( r) radius

polar second moment of area = pie (d4-d4)/32

radius = D/2


The Attempt at a Solution


(j)= pie ((0.6)4-d4)/32 = 0.08545 d4

(r) = 0.6/2 = 0.3

solid shaft = j/r = 152.41x10^6 / 99.25 x 10 ^-3 = 1.535 x 10^-3values from previous question

hollow shaft = j/r = 0.08545/0.3 = 284.83 x 10^ -3

d 3 square root with 1.535 x 10^-3/284.83 x 10^-3 under it = 175.32 x 10^-3

D= 0.6 x D = 0.6 x 175.32 x 10^-3 = 105.19 x 10^-3

therefore the dimensions are 175mm and 105mm

i think these values are wrong as the solid shaft is 198.5mm and i always thought the hollow shaft would be larger in diameter please help as i don't no what i have done wrong..
 
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series111 said:

Homework Statement


assuming that the maximum shear stress and torsion are the same in both shafts design a hollow shaft to replace the solid one . the ratio diameters is to be 0.6 for the maximum shear stress i calculated 79.95 x 10 ^6 mn/m2 and for the torsion i calculated 122.78x10^3 in the previous question.


Homework Equations


(T) torque/ (J) polar second moment of area and (t) shear stress/ ( r) radius

polar second moment of area = pie (d4-d4)/32
that's pie(d_o^4 - d_i^4)/32
radius = D/2
please watch your subscripts, r = d_o/2

The Attempt at a Solution


(j)= pie ((0.6)4-d4)/32 = 0.08545 d4
the equation should be pie(d_o^4 - (0.6d_o)^4))/32, but your answer is correct
(r) = 0.6/2 = 0.3
r is d_o/2
solid shaft = j/r = 152.41x10^6 / 99.25 x 10 ^-3 = 1.535 x 10^-3values from previous question

hollow shaft = j/r = 0.08545/0.3 = 284.83 x 10^ -3

d 3 square root with 1.535 x 10^-3/284.83 x 10^-3 under it = 175.32 x 10^-3

D= 0.6 x D = 0.6 x 175.32 x 10^-3 = 105.19 x 10^-3

therefore the dimensions are 175mm and 105mm

i think these values are wrong as the solid shaft is 198.5mm and i always thought the hollow shaft would be larger in diameter please help as i don't no what i have done wrong..
Yes, it should be larger in diameter; please correct your errors and try again. Be careful with the math, there are a lot of places where you can go wrong..
 
Had another look today and relised where i have went wrong here is my new answers :

torsion / polar second moment of area = tau/ radius

: (t) 122.78 x 10^3/(j) 0.08545 = (tau) 79.95 x 10 ^6/d/2

: (t) 122.78 x 10 ^3/(tau) 79.95 x 10 ^6 = (j) 0.08545 / d/2


D= 3 square root with 122.78 x 10^3/79.95 x 10 ^6 divide by 2 x 0.08545 = 207.90x10 ^-3m


d= 0.6 x D = 0.6 x 207.90 x 10 ^-3 = 124.74 x 10 -3m

the dimensions for the hollow shaft are D=208mm and d=125mm

hopefully i am correct this time!
 
Yes, that looks about right.:approve:
 
thanks for checking :smile:
 
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