Designing a Mosfet Switch for DAQ Simulation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing a MOSFET switch for isolating a Data Acquisition Card (DAQ) in a simulation context. Participants explore various aspects of MOSFET operation, including gate voltage requirements, current handling, and alternative components like BJTs. The conversation also touches on the behavior of MOSFETs in different operational modes and the implications of voltage sources in circuit design.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a MOSFET switch controlled by the DAQ, requiring a gate voltage above the threshold to turn on and 0 V to turn off, specifically for driving a computer fan at 160 mA.
  • Another participant advises ensuring the MOSFET operates in linear mode by applying a voltage close to the rail voltage of the fan, suggesting a BJT as a high-side driver to achieve this.
  • A participant questions how a 30V, 2A voltage source can drive a 12V load, indicating potential confusion about the operational modes of the MOSFET and the implications of current ratings.
  • Further discussion highlights that the 2A rating refers to the maximum output current of the supply, not necessarily the current being drawn, and raises questions about the actual voltage across the load.
  • Another participant proposes that the light bulb's behavior may not align with expected calculations, suggesting that the voltage supply might limit the current rather than the load itself.
  • Mathematical reasoning is introduced to estimate the internal resistance of the voltage source and its effect on the output voltage when combined with the load resistance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the operational characteristics of the MOSFET and the implications of the voltage source's ratings. There is no consensus on how the voltage source interacts with the load or the best approach for the MOSFET design.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention assumptions regarding the operational modes of the MOSFET and the characteristics of the voltage source, indicating that the discussion relies on specific circuit conditions and component behaviors that may not be universally applicable.

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Hi Guys,

I need to design something that will isolate our DAQ (Data Acquisition Card) for a basic simulation we need to do. I was thinking about designing a mosfet switch, where the DAQ sends some voltage to the gate above the threshold voltage to turn the MOSFET on and 0 V to turn it off. The MOSFET needs to be able to drive a computer fan (resistance is around 7k) and it runs at 160 mA. I was thinking about using common source. Anyone have any suggestions on the type of MOSFET i should be using in order to achieve 160 mA? Any help would be appreciated!
 
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skybox said:
Hi Guys,

I need to design something that will isolate our DAQ (Data Acquisition Card) for a basic simulation we need to do. I was thinking about designing a mosfet switch, where the DAQ sends some voltage to the gate above the threshold voltage to turn the MOSFET on and 0 V to turn it off. The MOSFET needs to be able to drive a computer fan (resistance is around 7k) and it runs at 160 mA. I was thinking about using common source. Anyone have any suggestions on the type of MOSFET i should be using in order to achieve 160 mA? Any help would be appreciated!

You might be able to turn it on, but you may be operating in saturation rather than linear mode--you should apply as close to the rail voltage (operating voltage of the fan) as possible to ensure that it turns on in linear mode (i.e. acts as a switch, with very low drain-source voltage). To that end, you can use a BJT (in common-emitter mode, designed to operate in either saturation or cut-off) to bootstrap the TTL voltage (if this is what is being generated) to your rail voltage--a high side driver, basically.

As for what FET to use, well, if you don't need really fast switching, a basic 2n7000 would probably meet your current requirements.
 
Chandra214 said:
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=fPQ8IXqAoTc
Please spare a min to watch the MOSFET Switch circuit.
I was wondering how a 30V, 2A voltage source at drain can drive a 12V load?
am i missing something??

Without knowing the resistance of the light bulb, I'd assume that he's either causing the MOSFET to operate in linear mode (and applying approximately 30V to the lightbulb) or that the MOSFET is operating in saturation mode, and applying less than 30V to the lightbulb.

If you didn't know, the 2A refers to the maximum current that the supply can output, not what it outputs all the time. Actually, since the lightbulb draws 2.5A (30W / 12V), he would exceeding the maximum output current of the voltage source, and thus is probably drawing a little over 2A, but causing the voltage source to sag (output at a lower voltage due to excessive current draw). Clever little trick.
 
MATLABdude said:
If you didn't know, the 2A refers to the maximum current that the supply can output, not what it outputs all the time. .

Yes I understand ratings!
well but how is he achieving 12V , 30W across light bulb?
Any maths to support it?
 
Chandra214 said:
Yes I understand ratings!
well but how is he achieving 12V , 30W across light bulb?
Any maths to support it?

As I implied above, he's probably not. But a light bulb is a pretty simplistic device that only requires a certain amount of current running across it to glow. I don't think I can (maybe someone else can, though) support this with an equation because he's probably relying on the voltage supply to limit the current going to the lightbulb.

You can very crudely determine what the voltage source's output voltage is by guesstimating the internal resistance (R_int) of the voltage source (make a Thevenin equivalent that assumes the short-circuit current is 2A and the open circuit voltage is 30V). And if you assume that the MOSFET is in linear mode, you can assume that the MOSFET drain-source path acts as a wire (or, find the R_ds from the datasheet--which should be only a few ohms--negligible compared with the other elements).

With the assumptions made above, you now just have a voltage divider consisting of R_int and the lightbulb, driven by the (ideal) voltage source.

EDIT: My back-of-envelope calculations gives R_int as 15 ohms, and R_bulb as 4.8 ohms, which tells you something right there :-D
 

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