Detecting current in 12v system

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around methods for detecting whether a device in a 12-volt system is powered on. Participants explore various approaches to achieve this detection, considering the constraints of the device's internal switch and the characteristics of the power supply.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests placing a small resistor in series with the device to detect the voltage across it, potentially using an op amp for this purpose, although they express uncertainty about their knowledge of op amps.
  • Another idea proposed involves measuring the voltage across the device's power leads and comparing it to the 12-volt supply, with considerations about using gates and pull-down resistors to interpret the voltage drop.
  • The participant notes that the device typically draws 1-3 amps and mentions the challenges posed by using a car battery or charger due to low internal resistance.
  • One participant references a previous thread that discussed various methods for detection, indicating that a specific method was adopted but does not provide details on what that method is.
  • Links to application notes and resources from manufacturers are shared, suggesting additional options for current sensing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on how to detect whether the device is on, with no consensus reached on a single method or approach.

Contextual Notes

Some methods discussed may depend on specific configurations or adaptations to the participant's application, and there are unresolved considerations regarding the impact of the power supply characteristics on detection methods.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electronics, particularly those working with low-voltage systems and current detection methods, may find this discussion relevant.

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I'm looking to detect when a device in a 12 volt systems is on, so that I can do something with that information -- like feeding it into an and gate. The device has it's own on/off switch inside it, so I can't simply detect at the regular on/off switch.

I was thinking about putting a small resistor in series with the device and then detecting the voltage across it. (Maybe there's a way to use an op amp to detect voltage this way, I'm not sure. My memory of op amps is a bit hazy.)

I was also thinking that I could measure the voltage across the device's power leads and compare it with the 12v supply. Maybe I could use a simple gate and some pull down resistors that would read the voltage drop as a zero instead of a one.

The device would be drawing 1-3 amps typically. It could be a light or anything else. The power supply would be either a car battery or a car battery on a charger. That would make the latter method a lot tougher, I'd think. There wouldn't be a lot of internal resistance in the power source.

Is there an elegant way of detecting whether something is on?

Regards
 
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Thanks for the suggestions! Excellent forum.

Regards
 

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