Determine for the flow of a differential equation

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The discussion revolves around determining whether specific functions can represent the flow of a differential equation. The functions in question are defined as mappings from the real numbers and three-dimensional space to three-dimensional space. Participants are exploring the implications of these definitions in the context of ordinary differential equations (ODEs).

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the meaning of the flow of a differential equation and how to derive the corresponding differential equations from the given functions. Questions arise regarding the correct interpretation of the functions and their mathematical representation.

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There is ongoing exploration of the definitions and properties of flows in relation to ODEs. Some participants have provided insights into the nature of flows and their mathematical requirements, while others express confusion and seek further examples or explanations.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and conditions necessary for a function to be considered a flow, including the requirements for differentiability and the initial conditions that must be satisfied. There is mention of the need for clarity on the relationship between the flow and the differential equations they represent.

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In each of the following cases, we define a function
:
##\phi##: ##{\mathbb R} \times {\mathbb R}^3 \rightarrow {\mathbb R}^3 ##
. Determine in
each case whether this function could be the flow of a differential equation, and write
down the differential equation.

(a) ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = (8,1,0)##,

(b) ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = \vec{x} \ \text{for all } t, ##

(c) ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = \vec{x} + (t,t,t).##

Could anyone helps me to decide how to determine the flow of a differential equation as I have trouble understanding what is the flow of a differential equation, and write down the differential equations?
 
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I'll make a stab at fixing up the Latex, but something still seems to be wrong:
Askhwhelp said:
In each of the following cases, we define a function ##\phi: {\mathbb R} \times {\mathbb R}^3 \rightarrow {\mathbb R}^3 ##. Determine in each case whether this function could be the flow of a differential equation, and write down the differential equation.

(a) ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = \vec{x} = (8,1,0)##,

(b) ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = \vec{x} = \vec{x} \ \text{for all } t, ##

(c) ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = \vec{x} + (t,t,t)##

Could anyone helps me to decide how to determine the flow of a differential equation as I have trouble understanding what is the flow of a differential equation, and write down the differential equations?
What does ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = \vec{x} = (8,1,0)## mean? Should it be ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = \vec{x} + (8,1,0)##?
As to what the flow of a differential equation means, try a net search. E.g. http://www.math.sjsu.edu/~simic/Fall05/Math134/flows.pdf.
 
haruspex said:
I'll make a stab at fixing up the Latex, but something still seems to be wrong:

What does ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = \vec{x} = (8,1,0)## mean? Should it be ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = \vec{x} + (8,1,0)##?
As to what the flow of a differential equation means, try a net search. E.g. http://www.math.sjsu.edu/~simic/Fall05/Math134/flows.pdf.

it should be a) ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = (8,1,0)## and b) ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = \vec{x} ##for all t?
 
Thank you for the article ... I am still confused by it...Could you show what it means by example?
 
Askhwhelp said:
Thank you for the article ... I am still confused by it...Could you show what it means by example?
I'll try to explain in words.
If you have an ODE dX/dt=F(X), where X is an n-dimensional vector and F is an n-dimensional function of it, then you can think of it as a vector field: at each point X in the space there is a vector F(X) pointing from it. You can imagine starting at some point X0 in the space and following the chain of vectors for 'time' t. The point we reach is represented as φt(X0). Thus, φt is a function which takes the whole space and maps each point to where it would be at time t. Or we can write φ(t,X0) = φt(X0), making φ a function :[itex]\Re\times\Re^n\rightarrow\Re^n[/itex]. This is known as the 'flow'.
 
haruspex said:
I'll try to explain in words.
If you have an ODE dX/dt=F(X), where X is an n-dimensional vector and F is an n-dimensional function of it, then you can think of it as a vector field: at each point X in the space there is a vector F(X) pointing from it. You can imagine starting at some point X0 in the space and following the chain of vectors for 'time' t. The point we reach is represented as φt(X0). Thus, φt is a function which takes the whole space and maps each point to where it would be at time t. Or we can write φ(t,X0) = φt(X0), making φ a function :[itex]\Re\times\Re^n\rightarrow\Re^n[/itex]. This is known as the 'flow'.

i still don't see how dX/dt=F(X) relates to φ(t,X0) = φt? Especially related to setup of my question
 
Askhwhelp said:
In each of the following cases, we define a function
:
##\phi##: ##{\mathbb R} \times {\mathbb R}^3 \rightarrow {\mathbb R}^3 ##
. Determine in
each case whether this function could be the flow of a differential equation, and write
down the differential equation.

(a) ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = (8,1,0)##,

(b) ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = \vec{x} \ \text{for all } t, ##

(c) ##\phi_t(\vec{x}) = \vec{x} + (t,t,t).##

Could anyone helps me to decide how to determine the flow of a differential equation as I have trouble understanding what is the flow of a differential equation, and write down the differential equations?

A flow on [itex]\mathbb{R}^3[/itex] is a differentiable function [itex]f: \mathbb{R} \times \mathbb{R}^3 \to \mathbb{R}^3[/itex] such that the restrictions [itex]f_t : \mathbb{R}^3 \to \mathbb{R}^3 : x \mapsto f(t,x)[/itex] satisfy:
  • [itex]f_0(x) = x[/itex] for all [itex]x \in \mathbb{R}^3[/itex].
  • [itex]f_t(f_s(x)) = f_{t+s}(x) = f_s(f_t(x))[/itex] for all [itex]x \in \mathbb{R}^3[/itex] and all [itex]t \in \mathbb{R}[/itex] and all [itex]s \in \mathbb{R}[/itex].
Note that these conditions require [itex]f_0 = f_t \circ f_{-t}[/itex] so that [itex]f_{-t} = f_t^{-1}[/itex] and each [itex]f_t[/itex] is invertible.

To find the differential equation, set [itex]x(t) = \phi_t(x_0)[/itex] for arbitrary constant [itex]x_0[/itex] and differentiate with respect to [itex]t[/itex].
 

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