Determine Orbital Period Of Satellite

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The discussion revolves around determining the orbital period of an artificial satellite in a circular orbit where the acceleration due to gravity is specified. The problem involves gravitational equations and the relationship between gravitational force and orbital motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various equations related to gravitational acceleration and orbital period, questioning the values used and the assumptions made. There are attempts to recalculate the radius and period using different methods, with some participants suggesting alternative approaches based on centripetal acceleration.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and suggesting different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of centripetal acceleration and the implications of using incorrect constants.

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There is uncertainty regarding the proper equations to use, and participants are exploring the implications of gravitational constants and the relationship between radius and gravitational acceleration. The original poster expresses confusion about their calculations and the correctness of the equations employed.

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Homework Statement


An artificial satellite circles the Earth in a circular orbit at a location where the acceleration due to gravity is 6.32 m/s^2. Determine the orbital period of the satellite [in minutes].

Homework Equations



[itex]g= G \frac{M_E}{r^2}[/itex] Solving for [itex]r[/itex], and G is a constant

[itex]T^2=K_sr^3[/itex] Solving for T, and [itex]K_s[/itex] is a constant.

The Attempt at a Solution



Solving the first equation for [itex]r[/itex], I obtain the value of [itex]6.30440 \cdot 10^{13}~m[/itex]; and substituting this value into the second equation, I get an orbital period of [itex]1.24 \cdot 10^{21} min[/itex] (this value has been converted from seconds to minutes). However, this isn't the correct. What did I do incorrectly?
 
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What value of Ks are you using?
 
That would be the one they provided in the textbook, 2.97 x 10^-19.
 
Bashyboy said:
Solving the first equation for [itex]r[/itex], I obtain the value of [itex]6.30440 \cdot 10^{13}~m[/itex]
Did you stop to think how far that is? Looks like you forgot to sqrt.
 
I re-worked the problem, but it is still incorrect.

I recalculated the distance at which the satellite is suspended above the earth:

[itex]r= \sqrt{\frac{G(5.97 \cdot 10^{24})}{6.32}} = 7940022.399~m[/itex]

Using this, I evaluated the period equation: [itex]T= \sqrt{K_s(7940022.399)^3} = 12.2~s[/itex]

None of this is correct. What am I doing wrong? I am not sure if these are the proper equations.
 
Bashyboy said:
I re-worked the problem, but it is still incorrect.

I recalculated the distance at which the satellite is suspended above the earth:

[itex]r= \sqrt{\frac{G(5.97 \cdot 10^{24})}{6.32}} = 7940022.399~m[/itex]

Using this, I evaluated the period equation: [itex]T= \sqrt{K_s(7940022.399)^3} = 12.2~s[/itex]

None of this is correct. What am I doing wrong? I am not sure if these are the proper equations.

You probably don't want to use the Kepler equation. The acceleration due to gravity should be the same as the centripetal acceleration v^2/r. Can you figure out a way to use that?
 
You don't even need to know the mass of the Earth to do this. All you need to know is that g varies inversely as the square of the distance from the center of the Earth and that the radius of the Earth is about 6450 km. So

[tex](9.8)(6450)^2=6.32r^2[/tex]

What does this give you for r?
 
Yes, simply adjusting from g by the ratio of squares of the radii is much the simplest, but in terms of where the OP went wrong it was in using Ks, which incorporates the mass of the sun, instead of (what I assume may be called) Ke.
 
haruspex said:
Yes, simply adjusting from g by the ratio of squares of the radii is much the simplest, but in terms of where the OP went wrong it was in using Ks, which incorporates the mass of the sun, instead of (what I assume may be called) Ke.

As I'm sure you're aware, in the next step, he didn't need to know the mass of the Earth either. He could just simply have used:
[tex]\omega^2r=6.32[/tex]
with [itex]\omega=\frac{2\pi}{T}[/itex]

Chet
 
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All right, I tried it a different way, according to the suggestion of Dick.

I still used the same method to find the radius at which the satellite is revolving.
That being: [itex]r=7940022.399~m[/itex].

Then, [itex]6.32=\frac{v^2}{7940022.399} \implies v = 7083.85~m/s[/itex]

Furthermore, [itex]v=r\omega \implies \omega = 8.92 \cdot 10^{-4}~rad/s[/itex]

Using the relationship Chestermiller alluded to, [itex]\omega = \frac{2\pi}{T} \implies T=0.001401476~s[/itex]

However, after all is said and done, this is the incorrect answer.
 
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Bashyboy said:
All right, I tried it a different way, according to the suggestion of Dick.

I still used the same method to find the radius at which the satellite is revolving.
That being: [itex]r=7940022.399~m[/itex].

Then, [itex]6.32=\frac{v^2}{7940022.399} \implies v = 7083.85~m/s[/itex]

Furthermore, [itex]v=r\omega \implies \omega = 8.92 \cdot 10^{-4}~rad/s[/itex]

Using the relationship Chestermiller alluded to, [itex]\omega = \frac{2\pi}{T} \implies T=0.001401476~s[/itex]

However, after all is said and done, this is the incorrect answer.

You messed up the algebra in the very last step. Otherwise, OK.
 

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