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The discussion revolves around determining the empirical and molecular formulas of an unknown compound based on given mass percentages of carbon, hydrogen, and nitrogen, which total only 68%. The user hypothesizes that the missing 32% could be attributed to water, suggesting that oxygen is also present in the compound. They calculate the mole ratio of the elements and derive an empirical formula of H C2 N3 - 2 H2 O. The user seeks confirmation of their calculations and inquires about the appropriateness of cross-posting in a chemistry forum for quicker responses. The conversation emphasizes the importance of converting percentages to moles for accurate ratio determination.
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I am given the percent by mass of various elements in an unknown compound, I must then find the empirical formula then find the molecular formula by the molar mass of the compound in part b. This particular problem, however, does not have the mass percentages add up to 100%, more like 68%, so I have to guess what the remaining 32%, and my assumptions vastly affect the outcomes of my asnwers.

Question: The percentages bt nass of C, H, and N in an unknown compound are found to be 23.30%, 4.85% and 40.78%, respectivley. (N.B. these do not add up yo 100%. Why?).
(a)Determine the empirical formula of the compound.
(b)The molar mass is 206 g/mol, what is its molecular formula?

Solution attempt:

The only think that could account for as much as 32% of the compound's mass that I know of is H_2 0 if it is hydrated. So therefore the other 31.07% of the mass is oxygen. So a little bit of work shows that the mole ratio is as follows : C : H : N : O = 1 : 2.47 : 1.5 : 1
so I multiply everything by two to get numbers that can be rounded to whole numbers
2 : 5 : 3 : 2
Since the Oxygen is part of the water, 2 moles o oxygen requires two 4 moles of hydrogen, so the resulting empirical formula is H C_2 N_3 - 2 H_2 O

some more calculations show that the molecular formula is ROUGHLY that times 2 for.
That compound has no polyatomic ions in my table. Am I correct?
 
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would I get a faster response if I posted this in the chemistry forum? Is cross-posting allowed?
 
Do you mean they are given to you in percents, as in grams? If this is the case, convert to moles and divide each by the smallest molar mass. Then you should be able to set up your ratio.
 
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