Determine the potential energy function of the charged particle

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The discussion revolves around determining the potential energy function of a charged particle, specifically in the context of an infinitely long linear charge. Participants explore the implications of integrating a force function and the assumptions related to potential energy constants.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the integration of a force function to find the potential energy and question the necessity of including a constant of integration. There is also exploration of the implications of assuming an infinitely long linear charge versus a finite length wire.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing observations and raising questions about the nature of potential energy functions and the assumptions involved. Some guidance is offered regarding the behavior of potential energy in relation to the length of the charge distribution.

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There is a mention of the challenge in defining the potential energy at infinity due to the nature of the linear charge being infinitely long, which may affect the assumptions made in the problem.

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Homework Statement
The electrostatic force repelling a charged particle from a long, straight, uniformly charged rod is given by
the equation F = 100 x ^ (-1) where x is the distance from the rod.
Relevant Equations
F = -(dU)/(dx)
I understand that you need to integrate f(x), and the negative of that is U(x).

But the last part of the problem says "Clearly state any assumptions you make."

And the answer is just the antiderivative of that f(x) without any constant from integrationHow does that make sense
 
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Good observation. You might insert the actual question in the homework statement, but I gather the exercise asks for 'the' potential energy function.

Such a function is in fact determined to within a constant (we don't observe potentials, only forces ...) . Usually we take the potential to be zero at infinity, but in this case that can not be done: a consequence of assuming the linear charge is itself infinitely long.
 
BvU said:
a consequence of assuming the linear charge is itself infinitely long.
So what would happen if the linear charge is infinitely long?
 
An infinitely long wire looks the same from any distance,

A better question is: what would change if the wire had finite length
(nice exercise: check that ##V\rightarrow {Q\over {4\pi\varepsilon_0 r} } ## for ##d\rightarrow \infty## )
 
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BvU said:
An infinitely long wire looks the same from any distance,

A better question is: what would change if the wire had finite length
(nice exercise: check that ##V\rightarrow {Q\over {4\pi\varepsilon_0 r} } ## for ##d\rightarrow \infty## )
Got it. thanks!
 
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