Determine the tension in each section of rope

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The discussion focuses on calculating the tension in a pulley system used to lift a piano with mass M. The minimum force F required to lift the piano is determined to be 0.5Mg. The tensions in the rope sections are identified as FT1 = 0.5Mg, FT2 = 0.5Mg, FT3 is undetermined, and FT4 = Mg. The user sought assistance specifically for calculating FT3, which was resolved by applying Newton's first law and analyzing the forces acting on the pulley.

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(a) What minimum force F is needed to lift the piano (mass M) using the pulley apparatus shown in Fig. 4-56? (Enter your answers in terms of some multiple of Mg.)
____ Mg (I got .5)
(b) Determine the tension in each section of rope: FT1, FT2, FT3, and FT4.
Tension in FT1?
____ Mg (I got .5)
Tension in FT2?
____ Mg (I got .5)
Tension in FT3?
____ Mg
Tension in FT4?
____ Mg (I got 1)

ok so i only need help on FT3...
thanks!
 
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picture of problem:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/lilaznbabe/4_56.gif

(a) What minimum force F is needed to lift the piano (mass M) using the pulley apparatus shown in Fig. 4-56? (Enter your answers in terms of some multiple of Mg.)
____ Mg (I got .5)
(b) Determine the tension in each section of rope: FT1, FT2, FT3, and FT4.
Tension in FT1?
____ Mg (I got .5)
Tension in FT2?
____ Mg (I got .5)
Tension in FT3?
____ Mg
Tension in FT4?
____ Mg (I got 1)

ok so i only need help on FT3...
thanks!
the best you can do is approximate it by assuming all tension forces on the upper pulley act vertically. You've got the others correct, so why not continue in the same manner to solve for FT3 in the same manner using Newton 1?
 
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i initially thought it was 1...but that is wrong, then i thought .5 but something tells me that's not right. :frown:
 
what is causing the tension in #3?

draw a FBD of the pulley with all the forces on it

in order for this system to be in equilibrium the sum of the forces must be 0,

so the forces up must equal the forces down
 
yay! thanks soooo much i got it!
 

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