Units of C & K in d=ω C √(l/g) sin(ω K √(l/g))

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The equation d=ω C √(l/g) sin(ω K √(l/g)) requires determining the units of constants C and K. It is established that K must be unitless since the argument of the sine function must be dimensionless. For the equation to hold true with d measured in meters, C must also be in meters. The discussion confirms that the equation can be treated in separate parts regarding units. Overall, the analysis concludes that both C and K are correctly identified as meters and unitless, respectively.
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Homework Statement


A quantity, d, depends on the angular frequency in the following manner:

d=ω C √(l/g) sin(ω K √(l/g))

Determine the units of C and K

Homework Equations


d=m
ω= sec-1
l=m
g=m/s2

I substituted this into the equation

m=s^(-1) C √(m/(m/s^2 )) sin(s^(-1) K √(m/(m/s^2 )) )

The Attempt at a Solution



I believe that when you take the sin of the brackets all the units in that bracket would have to become unit less. Therefore K would be a unit less constant?

And by cancellation C would have to be Meters for d to be meters?

Am i right in treating the equation as two separate parts?
 
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MattRSK said:

Homework Statement


A quantity, d, depends on the angular frequency in the following manner:

d=ω C √(l/g) sin(ω K √(l/g))

Determine the units of C and K

Homework Equations


d=m
ω= sec-1
l=m
g=m/s2

I substituted this into the equation

m=s^(-1) C √(m/(m/s^2 )) sin(s^(-1) K √(m/(m/s^2 )) )

The Attempt at a Solution



I believe that when you take the sin of the brackets all the units in that bracket would have to become unit less. Therefore K would be a unit less constant?
Well, let's see then. Inside the square root, (m/(m/s^2)= s^2 so taking the square root gives s and that is multiplied by s^(-1). Yes, K must be "unitless".

And by cancellation C would have to be Meters for d to be meters?
The the values outside the sin are the same, so if d is to be in m, c must be in m.

Am i right in treating the equation as two separate parts?
Yes, generally speaking, the argument of any function must be unitless and so can be treated separately. Looks like you have this completely right!
 
Hey thanks very much for that!
 
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