Determining Electric Potential

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The discussion revolves around determining the electric potential V for a nonconducting sphere with a concentric spherical cavity. The problem specifies different regions based on the distances from the center: outside the outer radius, within the material, and inside the cavity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the volume of the sphere and the relationship between charge and potential. The original poster expresses uncertainty about starting the problem and calculating the volume. Others suggest focusing on the total charge rather than volume and question how to find the total charge inside a given radius.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved in calculating electric potential. Some participants have offered guidance on the relationship between charge and potential, while others are still questioning the setup and assumptions of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the implications of charge density and the geometry of the problem. There is a mention of confusion regarding the volume calculations and the correct approach to finding the potential in different regions.

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Homework Statement


Consider a nonconducting sphere of radius r2. It has a concentric spherical cavity of r1. The material between r1 and r2 has a charge density p (C/m3). Take V=0 and r=infinity. Determine the electrical potential V as a function of the distance r from the center for (a) r>r2, (b) r1<r<r2, and (c)r<r1

Homework Equations


ρ=Q/V

The Attempt at a Solution


a) I have no idea where to start. Would my volume be just (4/3)πr3??

b) Total volume enclosed = (4/3)(π)(r2)3 - (4/3)(π)(r1)3

= (4/3)(π)(r23-r13
ρ=Q/V
=3Q/4(π)(r23-r13)

dQ= 3Qr2/(r23-r13)

V= (1/(4πε)∫dQ/r

Having trouble doing the integral...

c) There should be no electric potential inside
 
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Welcome to PF;
a) I have no idea where to start. Would my volume be just (4/3)πr3??
"no idea" is not acceptable here - you have just done a section of coursework that should have given you some ideas ... go back and look again.

The volume of the sphere radius r is going to be ##\frac{4}{3}\pi r^3## all right - but what is the volume you are supposed to find? Your next answer suggests you are confused about this.

Lets say you had a ball of charge radius R and charge Q with uniform density - you want to find the potential at radius r < R from the center ... the rule (for spherical distributions of charge) is that the potential is proportional to the total charge inside the radius and inversely proportional to the distance from the center.

So you should not be thinking in terms of volumes at all, but in terms of how much charge there is.
You'll end up doing as volume integral but only because the maths is easier that way.
 
Outside of the sphere would we not just use V= ((1/(4πε))(Q/r) ?
 
That's outside the sphere.
For r > R, the total charge inside r is Q, so V=kQ/r
For r< R, what is the total charge inside r?
 

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