Determining perpendicular tangent line

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The discussion revolves around finding the coordinates of points on the graph of the function f(x) = √(2x + 1) where the tangent line is perpendicular to the line represented by the equation 3x + y + 4 = 0. Participants explore the relationship between the slopes of the tangent line and the given line.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need to find the derivative of f(x) and the implications of perpendicularity in terms of slope relationships. Questions arise about the correct approach to equate slopes and whether to find specific points or consider multiple solutions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on finding the derivative and understanding the conditions for perpendicularity. There is acknowledgment of a correct point identified, but also a suggestion that the problem may involve more than one point, indicating ongoing exploration of the problem's requirements.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the need to equate the derivative to y and the implications of finding a cubic equation. Participants are also considering the domain restrictions of the function and the nature of the problem statement, which asks for coordinates of points.

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Homework Statement



Determine the coordinates of the points on the graph of [tex]f(x) = \sqrt {2x+1}[/tex] where the tangent line is perpendicular to the line 3x+y+4 = 0

Homework Equations



[tex]f(x) = \sqrt {2x+1}[/tex]
[tex]3x+y+4 = 0[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



For this, I was going to find the derivative of f(x) then equate that to y. This would be the point where they cross. But what does it mean for it to be perpendicular? Do I do the negative reciprocal of the slope?
 
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you have to first find the derivative of f(x) but why would you equate to y??
if the tangent line of a graph f(x) is perpendicular to a line at a point then the product of the slopes is -1 (or more than a point). but in this case its just one point.
So, first find this point.
 
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sara_87 said:
you have to first find the derivative of f(x) but why would you equate to y??
if the tangent line of a graph f(x) is perpendicular to a line at a point then the product of the slopes is -1 (or more than a point). but in this case its just one point.
So, first find this point.

I don't understand.

[tex]y= -3x -4[/tex]
[tex]f'(x) = \frac {1}{\sqrt{2x+1}}[/tex]
 
you differentiated f(x) correctly. now differentiate y.
you are asked to find the coordinates of the point where the tangent of the curve is perpendicular to the line y=-3x-4
to do this, you must first understand that at this point, the product of the gradients is -1.
so say the gradient of the curve is m and that of the line is n, then:
m*n=-1
this will give you a linear equation where you would easily be able to find x and then you can substitute to find y.
you found m correctly.
 
So then I take dy/dx = -3?

Then I multiply [tex] f'(x) = \frac {1}{\sqrt{2x+1}}[/tex] by -3?
 
Yes! I got the question right :). At (4, 3) it will be perpendicular.

Though, couldn't I just not equate f'(x) to y and then solve for x? I know I will get a cubic, but there will only be one answer that fits the domain.

Or am I completely wrong and this is the only way to do it?
 
if you were to equate f'(x) to y then that would be the wrong approach, there's no point in equating a deivative of a curve to the line (no point).
(4,3) is correct :)
but!
the question does say: determine the coordinates of the points (so more than one).
note when you substitute x=4 into the equation of the curve, you get y=3. what would you get if you substituted x=4 into the equation of the line?? you see, more than one point.
:)
 

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