Determining the Frequency Heard by a Helicopter from a Parachutist's Shout

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A parachutist shouts at a frequency of 425Hz after 4 seconds of free fall from a hovering helicopter. To determine the frequency heard at the helicopter, the speed of the parachutist must be calculated, which is -39.2 m/s due to gravity. The correct formula for calculating the observed frequency is f' = f/(1 + Vs/V), where Vs is the speed of the source moving away from the observer. There is confusion regarding the signs in the calculations, leading to discrepancies in the final frequency result. The correct frequency heard at the helicopter is approximately 381.4Hz, not the previously calculated 479Hz.
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Homework Statement



A parachutist leaps from a hovering helicopter, after 4.0s of freefall shouts back at 425Hz. What frequeny is heard at the helicopter?

Homework Equations



f'=f/(1+Vs/V)Vsource=?
f'=?
f=425Hz
V=343m/s

The Attempt at a Solution

I'm stuck on finding the speed for the jumper. I'm sure it's simple but i just can't think of it for somereason.
 
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nickb145 said:

Homework Statement



A parachutist leaps from a hovering helicopter, after 4.0s of freefall shouts back at 425Hz. What frequeny is heard at the helicopter?

Homework Equations



f'=f/(1-Vs/V)


Vsource=?
f'=?
f=425Hz
V=343m/s

The Attempt at a Solution




I'm stuck on finding the speed for the jumper. I'm sure it's simple but i just can't think of it for somereason.


Read the problem carefully. It is free-fall, the parachute is not yet opened . What is the speed of a falling body after 4 s?

ehild
 
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ehild said:
Read the problem carefully. It is free-fall, the parachute is not yet opened . What is the speed of a falling body after 4 s?

ehild


vy=Vyi-gt right?

initial speed is 0 so its just -9.8*4=-39.2
 
Yes, it is the velocity if you consider upward positive.
The parachuter shouts back. How is his sound heard on the helicopter? (Hm. The helicopter is very noisy --think it is a super helicopter making only low noise so the parachuter's sound can be heard :wink:)


ehild
 
But it is strange that i get a higher frequency of what it should be. The answer is 381.4 and i keep getting 479. I'm getting my signs wrong somewhere...

I used f'=f/(1+Vs/V) for a source moving away from reciever.
 
You need to calculate with the speed of moving away. The speed is positive, magnitude of velocity. Substitute Vs=39.2 m/s.

ehild
 

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