Dielectric Polarization Components in Ideal RC and C circuits

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The discussion explores the implications of connecting an ideal discharged capacitor in parallel with an ideal voltage source, questioning whether this leads to instantaneous charging and dielectric polarization due to a zero RC time constant. It highlights the distinction between the charging mechanism influenced by resistance and the separate dielectric polarization process, suggesting that the latter may have its own time constant independent of the RC time constant. Additionally, the conversation clarifies that storing charge in a capacitor is not the same as storing energy, as energy is dependent on both charge and voltage. The need for feedback indicates that the original poster seeks to refine their understanding of these concepts. Overall, the thread emphasizes the complexities of capacitor behavior in ideal conditions.
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Hi, I would like to know what the theoretical implication is, as it pertains to RC circuits of the following hypothetical situation(s):

If one were to connected an ideal discharged capacitor in parallel with an ideal voltage source with zero resistance in the loop, the calculated RC time constant would be 0s.

1.) Does this imply instantaneous charging of the capacitor? If so, does it mean the dielectric also polarizes instantaneously. (discontinuity in the dipoles alignment trajectory)

2.) One can view the RC time constant as the time required to charge the capacitor, through the resistor, by ≈ 63.2 percent of the difference between the initial value and final value of voltage applied.

If the resistance were removed, there would still seems to be a "separate" and "independent" dielectric polarization time component that is not due to the restriction imposed by a series resistance. Is there a separate time constant (independent of RC) for the time it takes the dielectric to fully polarize or is there a better way to think about this?

Note: I tend to think of charging a capacitor as two separate superimposed mechanisms. The first by the charge action on the capacitor due to a restriction by a resistance R and governed by the resulting RC time constant. (Rate at which charge may accumulate)

The second by the polarization reaction of the E-field "in the dielectric" that opposes the E-field of the charge accumulation on the plates, and causes more charge to accumulate. (Rate at which the dielectric polarizes)

3.) Is storing charge on a capacitor synonymous with storing energy in the capacitor?

Please help me clarify any misbeliefs, superstitions, etc.. Thanks!
 
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Any takers? I haven't got any replies yet, wondering if I am missing any information or if what I have posted is not clear enough or too abstract. Feedback would be appreciated. Thanks again.
 
This question is related to a thread on the EE forum

If you are including some characteristic of the dielectric then this is supplying the necessary series R to take the situation away from the ideal 'zero time constant' and the problems associated with that.
AS for Q3, Charge and energy are not the same things. E = QV. The energy is related to the PD as well as the charge imbalance.
 
It may be shown from the equations of electromagnetism, by James Clerk Maxwell in the 1860’s, that the speed of light in the vacuum of free space is related to electric permittivity (ϵ) and magnetic permeability (μ) by the equation: c=1/√( μ ϵ ) . This value is a constant for the vacuum of free space and is independent of the motion of the observer. It was this fact, in part, that led Albert Einstein to Special Relativity.
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