Difference between blast & shock wave

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the differences between shock waves and blast waves, particularly in the context of supernova remnants (SNRs). Participants explore the characteristics, definitions, and implications of these wave types in various media, including vacuum and dense environments.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a blast wave is a sharply peaked shock wave, while a shock wave has a region behind it where variables gradually decrease.
  • One participant mentions that the propagation of shock or blast waves depends on the mean free path between particles in the medium, suggesting that this affects their behavior in different environments.
  • A question is raised about whether a blast wave could be considered a shock wave whose rarefaction has caught up with the shock front, leading to a distinct peak.
  • Another participant notes that a blast wave occurs when energy is concentrated at a single point, simplifying the mathematical modeling compared to shock waves occurring within a star.
  • There is a suggestion that the Sedov-Taylor or Self-Similar phase of an SNR is a blast wave, implying that other phases may not be classified as such.
  • One participant challenges the idea that rarefaction plays a significant role in distinguishing between blast waves and shock waves.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and characteristics of shock waves and blast waves, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on specific assumptions about the conditions under which shock and blast waves are analyzed, such as the density of the medium and the energy distribution in space.

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Hi guys and gals,

with respect to SNRs (or anything for that matter)

What is the difference between a shock wave and a blast wave?
Is it just that a blast wave is a sharp peak in the change in variables, where as a shock wave has a region behind it in which the variables gradually decrease?

Also read that the Sedov-Taylor or Self-Similar phase of an SNR is a blast wave, does this mean the other phases aren't?

Many thanks in advance, its confusing quite a lot of us.
 
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A blast wave is the initial pulse from an energetic explosion. It is simply a strongly peaked shock wave, so you're on the right track. propagation of a shock or blast wave is dependent on the mean free path between particles in the medium through which it travels. The mean free path is another way of saying how far apart particles are on average. In the vacuum of space, the mean free path can be quite huge - not unlike an enormous billiard table with only a few balls. The time between collisions can be lengthy. The individual collisions can result in highly energetic photon emissions, but, lack the systemic kinematical effects of shock waves in a denser medium. Plasma effects tend to dominate under these circumstances.
 
Are you speaking relative to SNRs?

Is it possible that a Blast Wave is a Shock Wave whose rarefaction has caught up with the shock front? Thereby giving it a distinct peak?
 
Jain_Mor said:
Is it just that a blast wave is a sharp peak in the change in variables, where as a shock wave has a region behind it in which the variables gradually decrease?

I didn't make that much of a distinction between the two when I did my dissertation, but a blast wave is when you put all of the energy at one point and then you get a very nice easy to solve equation.

Also read that the Sedov-Taylor or Self-Similar phase of an SNR is a blast wave, does this mean the other phases aren't?

Yes. Suppose you have a shock wave that goes out for 0.1 light years. At that point you can model it as a smooth uniform gas in which someone dumped a massive amount of energy at one point, and the numbers work out since the size of the original star is much, much smaller than the area you are looking at. Since the star is a "point" the math becomes really simple.

Now if you try to model the shock wave when it is deep inside the star you can't do that.
 
Jain_Mor said:
Is it possible that a Blast Wave is a Shock Wave whose rarefaction has caught up with the shock front? Thereby giving it a distinct peak?

I don't think that works. There really isn't much in the way of rarefaction.
 
Thanks TwoFish, that's great :)
 

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