Difference between SO(3) and so(3)

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The discussion centers on the differences between the Lie group SO(3) and the Lie algebra so(3). Participants explore the definitions, properties, and relationships between these mathematical structures, touching on concepts from differential geometry and algebraic topology.

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  • Priyanshu initiates the discussion by seeking clarification on the terminology and differences between SO(3) and so(3).
  • One participant states that SO(3) is a Lie group and so(3) is its Lie algebra, describing SO(3) as a manifold and so(3) as a vector space with a specific bracket structure.
  • Another participant elaborates that so(3) represents the tangent space at the identity of SO(3) and explains the definition of the Lie bracket in terms of left-invariant and right-invariant vector fields.
  • A further contribution discusses the relationship between matrices and the Lie algebra, noting that so(3) consists of antisymmetric traceless 3×3 matrices and connects this to the exponential map.
  • One participant introduces the idea that different Lie groups can share the same Lie algebra, emphasizing the concept of local isomorphism and its relevance to quantum mechanics.
  • Another participant adds a topological perspective, stating that SO(3) is topologically related to the real projective space and provides a visualization of the Lie algebra structure.

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Participants generally agree on the basic definitions and relationships between SO(3) and so(3), but there are multiple perspectives regarding the implications of these structures, particularly in relation to other Lie groups and their topological properties. The discussion remains open with various interpretations and additional insights being shared.

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Hi,

What is the difference between lie group SO(3) and lie algebra so(3)? I just got the idea in terms of terminology that one represents the group and the other stands for algebra. But can anyone please provide details as to what exactly is the difference?

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SO(3) is a Lie group; so(3) is the Lie algebra of SO(3). SO(3) is a manifold; so(3) is a vector space with a bilinear, antisymmetric bracket that satisfies the Jacobi identity.

That really is all there is to it.
 
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In terms of differential geometry, so(3) is the tangent space at the identity element of SO(3), with a Lie bracket (X,Y)\mapsto[X,Y] defined by setting [X,Y] equal to the commutator at the identity, of the left-invariant (or right-invariant) vector fields corresponding to X and Y. (Those are the fields defined in the quote below. The two Lie algebras defined this way are isomorphic, so it doesn't matter if we use left multiplication or right multiplication to define the Lie bracket).

In terms of matrices, SO(3) is the set of 3×3 orthogonal matrices with determinant 1, and so(3) is the set of matrices X such that exp(tX) is in SO(3) for all real numbers t. (This is a trick to find a Lie algebra that's isomorphic to the group's Lie algebra. It works for matrix Lie groups). So it's the set of all antisymmetric traceless 3×3 matrices. (Mathematicians use the term "skew symmetric" or just "skew" instead of "antisymmetric". It means XT=-X. "Traceless" means Tr X=0, where Tr X is the sum of the diagonal elements).

Fredrik said:
Suppose that M and N are manifolds and \phi:M\rightarrow N is a diffeomorphism. Then we can define a function

\phi(p)_*:T_pM\rightarrow T_{\phi(p)}N

for each p\in M.

A Lie group is both a group and a manifold. We can use any member g of a group G to construct two diffeomorphisms \rho_g and \lambda_g that map G onto itself:

\rho_g(h)=hg
\lambda_g(h)=gh

The Lie algebra associated with the Lie Group is defined as the tangent space at the identity element, with a Lie bracket that will be defined below. Let's use the notation \mathfrak{g}=T_eG

We can use either right or left multiplication to map the Lie algebra onto the tangent space at any other point g:

\rho_g_*:\mathfrak{g}\rightarrow T_gG
\lambda_g_*:\mathfrak{g}\rightarrow T_gG

Let's simplify the notation a bit:

\rho_g_*(L)=Lg
\lambda_g_*(L)=gL

We can use these maps to construct two vector fields X_L^\rho and X_L^\lambda for each vector L in the Lie algebra:

X_L^\rho|_g=Lg
X_L^\lambda|_g=gL

Either of these two vector fields can be used to define a Lie bracket on the Lie Algebra:

[K,L]=[X_K^\rho,X_L^\rho]_e
[K,L]=[X_K^\lambda,X_L^\lambda]_e
 
Thanks Fredrick and shoehorn.
 
I imagine your question is ultimately rooted in quantum mechanics reading. The other posts definitely are correct, but there is a missing piece.

Given the Lie group, you get the Lie algebra as described, but Lie algebras aren't unique. Different Lie groups share the same Lie algebra, but to do so they are topologically "close". They are locally isomorphic - they share the same universal cover (algebraic topology concept).

The Lie algebra gets you to the unique simply connected version of the Lie group, which for SO(3) happens to be SU(2). This is the reason that SU(2) is used as the rotation group for three dimensional space.
 
Thanks for the addition tmccullough. I came across it while reading some proofs in computer vision.
 
btw: SO(3) is topologically the real projective space of lines in Euclidean three space. It is diffeomorphic to the tangent circle bundle of the 2 sphere. With this picture you can also visualize the Lie algebra structure of the tangent space at the identity - an instructive exercise.
 

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