Difference between thermal and non-thermal Bremsstrahlung

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The discussion centers on the differences between thermal and non-thermal Bremsstrahlung, exploring the definitions, examples, and underlying processes associated with each type. It includes technical explanations and clarifications regarding the nature of radiation produced by charged particles in various contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants define thermal Bremsstrahlung as radiation generated by particles following a thermal (Maxwell-Boltzmann) distribution, with examples including radiation from the intergalactic medium (IGM) in galaxy clusters.
  • Others propose that non-thermal Bremsstrahlung encompasses various forms of radiation, such as cyclotron and synchrotron radiation in pulsars and quasars.
  • A participant questions whether synchrotron radiation qualifies as non-thermal Bremsstrahlung, expressing confusion about the definition of Bremsstrahlung as related to charged particles accelerating near nuclei.
  • Another participant clarifies that the distinction between thermal and non-thermal is based on the electron population and the thermal character of the processes, rather than the type of radiation process itself.
  • Concerns are raised about the absence of thermal inverse-Compton scattering, with a participant suggesting that it depends on the original radiation field and its thermalization.
  • It is noted that thermal inverse Compton scattering may occur in specific environments, such as the core of a supernova, but is not common in general discussions of thermal processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the classification of synchrotron radiation and the implications of thermal versus non-thermal distinctions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise definitions and examples of Bremsstrahlung types.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the definitions provided, particularly regarding the technical details of what constitutes Bremsstrahlung and the conditions under which thermal versus non-thermal processes are applicable. The discussion also highlights the complexity of radiation processes in different physical contexts.

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Can anyone give me a nice explanation of the difference between thermal and non-thermal Bremsstrahlung?

Thank you!
 
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Thermal Bremsstrahlung is generated by particles which obey a thermal (maxwell-boltzmann) distribution. The radiation from the IGM in galaxy clusters is an excellent example.

Non-thermal Bremsstrahlung is just about everything else: e.g. cyclotron/synchrotron radiation in pulsars and quasars.
 
Thank you I've just seen this reply sorry.

I'm still not sure that I understand. Are you saying that synchrotron radiation for example is non-thermal bremsstrahlung? I thought that bremsstrahlung was when a charged particle was accelerated in the region of a nucleus.

Also, if thermal bremsstrahlung is generated by particles that obey a thermal distribution, why is there no such thing as thermal inverse-compton scattering for example?

Thank you!
 
The Wiki on brehmsstrahlung says "Strictly speaking, bremsstrahlung refers to any radiation due to the acceleration of a charged particle, which includes synchrotron radiation; however, it is frequently used in the more narrow sense of radiation from electrons stopping in matter." This was my impression also (though I certainly wouldn't have said "stopping", just electons in the fields of ions), so it's kind of a technical detail if we should count synchrotron emission or not.

The essential answer to your question is that thermal vs. nonthermal is not a distinction in the type of process that is making the radiation, it is a distinction in the population of electrons that is undergoing that process, as well as the overall thermal character of all the relevant processes. But typically, bremsstrahlung does refer to radiation made by electrons in the fields of ions. Then if the electrons are "thermalized", then they will have a Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution, as said above, and that means they will make thermal emission, because everything going on is regulated by nothing but the electron distribution, and that has a meaningful temperature and will be the same if it is in thermodynamic equilibrium. Inverse Compton scattering involves something other than the electron distribution, it also depends on the original radiation field, so that would only be thermal if the initial radiation field was thermalized and at the same T as the electrons. Emission like that wouldn't do anything, as the radiation field was already thermal, so would hardly get mentioned. Plus, it doesn't really get called inverse Compton unless the electrons are relativistic, and thermal relativistic environments are not terribly common, but it might be fair to say that thermal inverse Compton scattering occurs copiously in the core of a supernova.
 

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