Differentiable functions in complex analysis

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Hello all, I have the following problem from Complex Analysis that I would like for someone to check my understanding on:

Homework Statement


The problem is to find the derivative if it exists of
f(z) = \frac{e^{i\theta}}{r^2} = r^{-2}\cos \theta + i r^{-2}\sin \theta
where I have already changed the complex function f(z) into polar form.



Homework Equations


The Cauchy-Riemann conditions in polar coordinates are
\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{r}} = \frac{1}{r}\frac{\partial{v}}{\partial{\theta}}
and
\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{\theta}} = -r\frac{\partial{v}}{\partial{r}}



The Attempt at a Solution


For the first Cauchy-Riemann condition above, I get
\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{r}} = \frac{-2}{r^3}\cos \theta and
\frac{1}{r}\frac{\partial{v}}{\partial{\theta}} = \frac{1}{r^3}\cos \theta
For the second Cauchy-Riemann condition above I get
\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{\theta}} = \frac{-1}{r^{2}}\sin \theta and
-r\frac{\partial{v}}{\partial{r}} = \frac{2}{r^2}\sin \theta

To check my understanding of this, the Cauchy-Reimann conditions are not satisfied "symbolically", but there could be certain values of r or \theta where the Cauchy-Reimann conditions are satisfied, right? However, in this problem, I am not seeing any combination of r or \theta where the Cauchy-Riemann conditions could be satisfied, and so this function is not differentiable anywhere. Is this the right understanding of complex functions being differentiable or not?
 
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Usually we differentiate with respect to z. If the function has a derivative with respect to z it is analytic throughout some neighborhood of z.

If you break the function back down either into x,y or r ##\theta##, getting it all back together is a major hassle.

So what was the original function of z?
 
Well, it wasn't in terms of z. It was \frac{x+iy}{x^2 + y^2} which i thought would work better if I changed it to polar form.
 
flooey.D said:
Well, it wasn't in terms of z. It was \frac{x+iy}{x^2 + y^2} which i thought would work better if I changed it to polar form.

Yes, it is easier in polar. But you don't have the right polar form. x+iy isn't the same as ##e^{i \theta}##.
 
Dick said:
Yes, it is easier in polar. But you don't have the right polar form. x+iy isn't the same as ##e^{i \theta}##.

Ahh, I'm seeing that I should have written x+iy = re^{i\theta}, is this what you are hinting at?

Re-working through it all I get down to similar expressions for the C-R conditions above with 2 changing to 1, and the powers of r decreasing by 1. My conclusion above is still the same.
 
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flooey.D said:
Ahh, I'm seeing that I should have written x+iy = re^{i\theta}, is this what you are hinting at?

Re-working through it all I get down to similar expressions for the C-R conditions above with 2 changing to 1, and the powers of r decreasing by 1. My conclusion above is still the same.

Yes, it's not differentiable everywhere, but there are some values of r and θ where it is differentiable. Can you find them? And could you spell out what you got for the new CR equations?
 
Dick said:
And could you spell out what you got for the new CR equations?
New CR equations are

1st set:
\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{r}} = -\frac{1}{r^2}\cos \theta and
\frac{1}{r}\frac{\partial{v}}{\partial{\theta}} = \frac{1}{r^2}\cos \theta

2nd set:
\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{\theta}} = -\frac{1}{r}\sin \theta and
-\frac{r\partial{v}}{\partial{r}} = \frac{1}{r}\sin \theta

Dick said:
there are some values of r and \theta where it is differentiable. Can you find them?
This one I'm having some trouble with:
If I try \theta = 0
then the 2nd set of CR equations is satisfied, but the 1st set is not. And vice versa for \theta = \pi / 2.
If I try angles like \frac{\pi}{4}, \frac{3\pi}{4}, \ldots I get one negative and one positive number for each set of CR equations.
Any r I choose except r=0, I get one negative and one positive number for each set of CR equations.

Are my CR equations right?
 
flooey.D said:
New CR equations are

1st set:
\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{r}} = -\frac{1}{r^2}\cos \theta and
\frac{1}{r}\frac{\partial{v}}{\partial{\theta}} = \frac{1}{r^2}\cos \theta

2nd set:
\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{\theta}} = -\frac{1}{r}\sin \theta and
-\frac{r\partial{v}}{\partial{r}} = \frac{1}{r}\sin \thetaThis one I'm having some trouble with:
If I try \theta = 0
then the 2nd set of CR equations is satisfied, but the 1st set is not. And vice versa for \theta = \pi / 2.
If I try angles like \frac{\pi}{4}, \frac{3\pi}{4}, \ldots I get one negative and one positive number for each set of CR equations.
Any r I choose except r=0, I get one negative and one positive number for each set of CR equations.

Are my CR equations right?

Ooops. Actually, I made a sign error. I think you are right.
 
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flooey.D said:
New CR equations are

1st set:
\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{r}} = -\frac{1}{r^2}\cos \theta and
\frac{1}{r}\frac{\partial{v}}{\partial{\theta}} = \frac{1}{r^2}\cos \theta

2nd set:
\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{\theta}} = -\frac{1}{r}\sin \theta and
-\frac{r\partial{v}}{\partial{r}} = \frac{1}{r}\sin \theta
That is correct given the corrected function.

flooey.D said:
Well, it wasn't in terms of z. It was \frac{x+iy}{x^2 + y^2} which i thought would work better if I changed it to polar form.
Even easier is to use the fact that x2+y2=zz*, which means f(z)=z/(zz*)=1/z*. What does that tell you about differentiability?
 
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Thank you everyone.

Even easier is to use the fact that x2+y2=zz*, which means f(z)=z/(zz*)=1/z*. What does that tell you about differentiability?

I wish I would have thought of this in the first place; thanks for the extra tip.
 
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