Differentiate e^(-1/2 x) sqrt(1 + 2x) - troubles

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The discussion revolves around differentiating the function y = e^(-1/2 x) √(1 + 2x) and finding the x-coordinates where dy/dx = 0. Participants emphasize the importance of using the product rule for differentiation, identifying u and v as separate functions. After deriving the equation, they focus on solving (1 + 2x)^(-1/2) - (1/2)(1 + 2x)^(1/2) = 0 to find the critical points. The correct approach leads to the conclusion that the x-coordinate at the maximum point is indeed 0.5, aligning with the provided solution in the booklet.
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the curve y = e^ −1/2x √(1 + 2x) please differentiate this equation i am having some problem.. i want to check my answer

My answer :

e^-1/2x { (1+2x )^-1/2 + (1+2x)^1/2 (-1/2) }

In fact i need to find the x-coordinates and according the booklet the answer of the x-coordinate is 0.5 and me i cannot have the answer ( need to equal the dy/dx = 0 ) to find x-coordinate
 
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Do you need to find the value of x where dy/dx=0? You derived the equation already, put it equal to 0 and solve. As the exponent can not be zero, the factor { (1+2x )^-1/2 + (1+2x)^1/2 (-1/2) }=0.

ehild
 


differentiation of two products means you must use the product rule.

if y=uv, where u and v are functions of x, such as in your case you have u=e^{-x/2} and v=(1+2x)^{1/2}

then \frac{dy}{dx}=u\frac{dv}{dx}+v\frac{du}{dx}

Ok so what is \frac{dv}{dx} and what is \frac{du}{dx} ?

Solve these separately first and we'll show you if you made any mistakes anywhere in your differentiation.
 


Mentallic said:
differentiation of two products means you must use the product rule.

if y=uv, where u and v are functions of x, such as in your case you have u=e^{-x/2} and v=(1+2x)^{1/2}

then \frac{dy}{dx}=u\frac{dv}{dx}+v\frac{du}{dx}

Ok so what is \frac{dv}{dx} and what is \frac{du}{dx} ?

Solve these separately first and we'll show you if you made any mistakes anywhere in your differentiation.

Okk so for U = e^-1/2x...du/dx = -1/2 e^-1/2x

and for V = (1+2x)^1/2...dv/dx = (1+2x)^-1/2

and i replace in y=uv
 


Nearly. For v=(1+2x)^{1/2} you need to remember to take the derivative of the inside of the brackets by the chain rule. For y=[f(x)]^n, \frac{dy}{dx}=n[f(x)]^{n-1}.f'(x)

And then you replace in \frac{dy}{dx}=uv'+vu' where v' is the derivative of v with respect to x, or \frac{dv}{dx} and similarly for u'.
 


Mentallic said:
Nearly. For v=(1+2x)^{1/2} you need to remember to take the derivative of the inside of the brackets by the chain rule. For y=[f(x)]^n, \frac{dy}{dx}=n[f(x)]^{n-1}.f'(x)

And then you replace in \frac{dy}{dx}=uv'+vu' where v' is the derivative of v with respect to x, or \frac{dv}{dx} and similarly for u'.


no i have already evalute,, 1/2 (1+2x) ^-1/2 x 2 = (1 +2x) ^-1/2
 


ehild said:
Do you need to find the value of x where dy/dx=0? You derived the equation already, put it equal to 0 and solve. As the exponent can not be zero, the factor { (1+2x )^-1/2 + (1+2x)^1/2 (-1/2) }=0.

ehild


hmmm no let the exponential and x-coordinate part,, help me to differentiate, infact i have differentiate, but i am not obtaining the answer
 


yeahh infact the x-coordinate of a maximum point
 


You have differentiate the y(x) function already. Now you have to solve the equation

(1+2x )^-1/2 + (1+2x)^1/2 (-1/2)=0

I rewrite it in tex so as you see more clearly:

\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+2x}}-\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{1+2x}=0

hint: Multiply the equation with (1+2x) ^1/2.

ehild
 
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ehild said:
You have differentiate the y(x) function already. Now you have to solve the equation

(1+2x )^-1/2 + (1+2x)^1/2 (-1/2)=0

I rewrite it in tex so as you see more clearly:

\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+2x}}-\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{1+2x}=0

hint: Multiply the equation with (1+2x) ^1/2.

ehild

\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+2x}}-\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{1+2x}=0

Till here i have reached, so

1 / (1+2x)^1/2 = 1/2 (1+2x)^1/2

If i use your hint i get: 0 = 1/2 (1+2X) ^1/2 x (1+2X) ^1/2

Aww now how should i break the brackets ?
 
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## Oppps i think that it is not zero but one
 
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jinx007 said:
\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+2x}}-\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{1+2x}=0

Till here i have reached, so

1 / (1+2x)^1/2 = 1/2 (1+2x)^1/2

If i use your hint i get: 0 = 1/2 (1+2X) ^1/2 x (1+2X) ^1/2

Aww now how should i break the brackets ?

Your last equation is totally wrong. I said multiply the whole equation by
(1+2X) ^1/2. Do it with your first equation, it is correct.

ehild
 
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ehild said:
Your last equation is totally wrong. I said multiply the whole equation by
(1+2X) ^1/2. Do it with your first equation, it is correct.

ehild


so the equation is like this after the multiplication:

1= 1/2 (1+2X)^1/2 X (1+2X) ^1/2

1 = 1/2 (1 + 2x)

is it correct?
 
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by the way the answer that is the x-coordinate is 0.5 according to the booklet
 
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jinx007 said:
so the equation is like this after the multiplication:

1= 1/2 (1+2X)^1/2 X (1+2X) ^1/2

1 = 1/2 (1 + 2x)

is it correct?
Yes, that is correct. And that is a simple linear equation. Solve it for x.
 
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