Differentiation Problem on Lie Groups

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The discussion revolves around the computation of the exterior derivative of a differential 1-form defined on a manifold with values in the Lie algebra of a Lie group. Participants explore the implications of this computation in both abstract and matrix Lie group contexts.

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  • One participant poses a question about computing the exterior derivative, dad(g)θ, for a differential 1-form θ defined on a manifold and extended to the tangent space of the Lie group G.
  • Another participant provides a computation for matrix groups, detailing the expression for dad(g)θ in terms of tangent vectors and left invariant vector fields.
  • There is mention of the Baker–Campbell–Hausdorff formula, suggesting a connection to the computations being discussed.
  • A later reply reformulates the expression for dad(g)θ, introducing the Lie bracket of the differential forms ω and ad(g)θ, but does not clarify whether this leads to a simplification.

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Participants present differing approaches to the problem, with no consensus on the simplification or resolution of the computations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the computations and their connections to known formulas.

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The discussion includes complex mathematical expressions and assumptions that may not be fully articulated, such as the dependence on specific properties of the Lie group and the nature of the differential forms involved.

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Suppose θ is a differential 1 form defined on a manifold and with values in the Lie algebra of a Lie group,G.

On MxG define the 1 form, ad(g)θ ,where θ is extended by letting it be zero on the tangent space to G

How do you compute the exterior derivative, dad(g)θ ?

BTW: For matrix Lie groups this is straightforward. What is the abstract calculation?
 
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Here is some computation for matrix groups

dad(g)θ(x + h, y + k) = (x + h).ad(g)θ(y + k) - (y + k).ad(g)θ(x + h) -ad(g)θ[x + h, y + k]

where Y and X are tangent to the manifold and h and K are left invariant vector fields.

Computing:

dad(g)θ(x + h, y + k) = (x + h).ad(g)θ(y) - (y + k).ad(g)θ(x) -ad(g)θ[x, y]

= ad(g)dθ(x,y) + h.ad(g)θ(y) - k.ad(g)θ(x)


h.ad(g)θ(y) = h. gθ(y)g^{-1} = dg(h)θ(y)g^{-1} - gθ(y)g^{-1}dg(h)g^{-1}

= dg(h)g^{-1}gθ(y)g^{-1} - gθ(y)g^{-1}dg(h)g^{-1}

= ω(h)ad(g)θ(y) - ad(g)θ(y)ω(h) where ω is the right invariant Maurer-Cartan form.

So h.ad(g)θ(y) - k.ad(g)θ(x) = ω(h)ad(g)θ(y) - ad(g)θ(y)ω(h) - ω(k)ad(g)θ(x) + ad(g)θ(x)ω(k)

Simplify?
 
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It looks like you are writing about the Baker–Campbell–Hausdorff formula, which does have a somewhat simplified representation in the case of SO(n).
 
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This doesn't simplify anything but succinctly rewrites the formula as

ad(g)dθ +[ω,ad(g)θ] where the second term is the Lie bracket of the two differential forms ω and ad(g)θ
 

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