Diffraction grating (missing diffraction beam)

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The discussion revolves around a diffraction grating problem involving a slit width of 0.83 micrometres and light of 430 nanometres. The original poster notes the observation of diffracted beams at specific angles, questioning the absence of the second-order beam.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between slit width and diffraction effects, particularly how the single slit effect may influence the visibility of certain diffraction orders. Questions arise regarding the setup of the grating and whether it is a transmission or reflection grating.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, considering calculations related to grating spacing and angles of diffraction. There is a recognition of the complexity of the setup, and some guidance is provided on comparing angles to understand the missing order phenomenon.

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There is a mention of the need for additional information regarding the type of grating used, as well as the implications of the slit width in relation to the diffraction pattern observed.

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Homework Statement


A diffraction grating has slit width 0.83 micrometres. When light of 430 nanometres is used, diffracted beams are observed at 14 degrees 55 minutes and at 50 degrees 40 minutes to the zero order. The first beam is assumed to be the first order and the other one can be calculated to be the third order. Why is the second order missing?


Homework Equations


d Sin (theta) = n x Lamda

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the slit width has something to do with this. Does the width of the slit cause a single slit effect which counteracts the diffraction effects for the 2nd order only but allows the first and third order to be visible?
 
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pfellas said:
I know that the slit width has something to do with this. Does the width of the slit cause a single slit effect which counteracts the diffraction effects for the 2nd order only but allows the first and third order to be visible?
That could well be what is going on. [EDIT: see my post #5 below] [STRIKE]But to me it seems to be a weird setup, to have such a narrow slit combined with a diffraction grating. I have a hard time imagining how they are combined, is there any other information in the problem statement? Do they say or indicate if this is a transmission or reflection grating?[/STRIKE]

At any rate, you can use the given information to calculate:
  • The grating spacing
  • The angle of the 2nd-order diffracted beam
  • The angle of the single-slit dark band
Then you can compare those two angles, and see if they are equal.
 
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In a diffraction grating, you can see the interference pattern due to double slit and diffraction pattern due to single slit. If a is the slit width, b is the spacing, then (a+b) will be the distance between the slits. If θ is the angle of diffraction of nth maximum due to interference, then we have
(a+b)sinθ = nλ.
If α is the angle of diffraction for pth minimum due to diffraction, then
a*sinα = πλ.
If you keep a constant and change b, the spacing between the interference maxima changes.
At a certain value of a and b, it is possible that , for the same value of θ, certain interference maximum may coincide with diffraction minima at the same position on the screen. when this happen, those maxima will not be visible and they are called the missing orders.
When a = b, second, fourth, sixth etc., orders of interference maxima are missing.
When 2a = b, third, sixth, ninth..etc., orders are missing.
 
Thank you both very much! Much appreciated.
 
You're welcome.

After reading rl.bhat's response, I realize now that the grating is made of many slits, each of the given 0.83 μm width, and to-be-determined spacing. So it's a transmission grating, not a reflection grating as I am used to seeing in practice.
 

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