Dimension of eigenspace, multiplicity of zero of char.pol.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between the multiplicity of eigenvalues in the characteristic polynomial of a matrix and the dimensions of the corresponding eigenspaces. Participants explore the implications of these multiplicities, particularly focusing on a 3x3 matrix example.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the multiplicity of zero in the characteristic polynomial restricts the dimension of the corresponding eigenspace, suggesting it could be one or two dimensional.
  • Another participant argues that if the eigenspace corresponding to the eigenvalue λ=1 were two-dimensional, it would lead to a contradiction regarding the determinant of the matrix, implying it must be one-dimensional.
  • A different participant counters that the assumption of diagonalizability is incorrect, stating that the minimal polynomial is necessary for complete information about the eigenspaces.
  • One participant shares a matrix example but later expresses uncertainty about its validity, indicating a struggle with the complexity of the problem.
  • Another participant acknowledges a misreading of a previous post, indicating the ongoing nature of the discussion and potential misunderstandings.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of the characteristic polynomial and the necessity of the minimal polynomial, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding assumptions about diagonalizability and the reliance on the characteristic polynomial alone, which may not provide complete information about the eigenspaces.

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Does the multiplicity of zero of characteristic polynomial restrict from above the possible dimension of the corresponding eigenspace?

For example if we have a 3x3 matrix A, and a characteristic polynomial

[tex] \textrm{det}(\lambda - A)=\lambda^2(\lambda - 1)[/tex]

I can see that the eigenspace corresponding to the eigenvalue [tex]\lambda=0[/tex] can be either one or two dimensional. For example

[tex] A=\left(\begin{array}{ccc}<br /> 0 & 0 & 0 \\<br /> 0 & 0 & 0 \\<br /> 0 & 0 & 1 \\<br /> \end{array}\right)[/tex]

or

[tex] A=\left(\begin{array}{ccc}<br /> 0 & 1 & 0 \\<br /> 0 & 0 & 0 \\<br /> 0 & 0 & 1 \\<br /> \end{array}\right)[/tex]

What about the eigenspace corresponding to the eigenvalue [tex]\lambda=1[/tex]? Is it necessarily one dimensional, or could it be two dimensional?

I'm almost sure that it must be one dimensional, but its difficult to see certainly what's happening if the matrix is not diagonalizable.
 
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Yes.
If the lambda=1 eigenspace was 2d, then you could choose a basis for which
[tex] A=\left(\begin{array}{ccc}<br /> 1 & 0 & \cdot \\<br /> 0 & 1 & \cdot \\<br /> 0 & 0 & \cdot \\<br /> \end{array}\right)[/tex]
- just take the first two vectors of the basis in the eigenspace.
Then, it should be clear that the determinant of
[tex] \lambda-A=\left(\begin{array}{ccc}<br /> \lambda-1 & 0 & \cdot \\<br /> 0 & \lambda-1 & \cdot \\<br /> 0 & 0 & \cdot \\<br /> \end{array}\right)[/tex]
has a factor of [itex](\lambda-1)^2[/itex], which would contradict your assumption.
 
I see.
 
That is not correct: you cannot assume that the matrix is diagonalizable. What you get tells you about the dimension of the generalized eigenspaces. But really, you need the minimal polynomial, not just the characteristic polynomial, for full information.
 
[tex]\frac{1}{2}\left(\begin{matrix}2 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 & 1 \\ 1 & 1 & 1\end{matrix}\right)[/tex]

nevermind this is a strange matrix, which doesn't quite work

Wow, i just made this way harder than it needs to be...

[tex]\left(\begin{matrix}1 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0\end{matrix}\right)[/tex]

should suffice
 
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Note, I misread Gel's post, but it's now too late to edit mine.
 

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